Is youtube (and all social media) a peado's playground?

  • AT&T and Hasbro pull YouTube ads over abuse claims

    AT&T and Hasbro have become the latest firms to pull adverts from YouTube over claims paedophiles are leaving offensive comments next to videos of children on the platform.

    The telecoms firm and toymaker follow food giant Nestle, which on Wednesday said it had also "paused" its ads.

    YouTube said it had disabled comments on millions of videos that "could be subject to predatory comments".

    AT&T is America's and one of the world's largest telecom's firms. It owns the Warner Brothers Hollywood studio which makes cartoons like Bugs Bunny and runs the Cartoon Network. It clearly wants to portray itself as a family friendly organisation.


    The question of content on social media platforms has been bubbling for ages, but there now seems to be mulitple issues from self harm content to terrorist activity, but all these advertisers knew these platforms were open platforms when they put their ads on them, yet still chose to place ads on these sites.


    I see this going either of two ways, either pictures and videos of children dancing around in their underwear gets classified as child pornography, or society has to think very carefully about how and even whether children should use the internet, especially social media sites.


    But where is the line drawn over protection of children in regards to the internet? Is it the platform's responsibility to ensure that all content is deemed suitable and besides, who gets to decide what is suitable and what is not, as per my example earlier?


    What about parents? Shouldn't parents be made to be responsible for their children's internet use? It doesn't help that in many instances, parents upload pictures of their children onto the internet, whether it be holiday snaps or messing around in their homes.


    The only reason paedophiles are leaving lewd comments on children's videos on youtube, is because the videos are there to begin with.


    Many commentators say that you can't turn back time and children need to be tech savy, which I agree with, but the flip side is parents would not invite a paedophile into their house, yet in many cases allow their children to do whatever they want on the net, quite often with the parent's active encouragement.


    Children are not able to judge what is safe and what is not and even teenagers cannot fully understand the dangers that the internet may pose to them and besides it's not kids who are paying for the devices to access the internet or paying for the broadband providers, but their parents. Personally, I think parents need to clamp down on their children's internet use.


    Should we rethink whether there needs to be a carpet ban on all pictures and videos of children on the internet and really start to rethink whether children should be using the internet at all?


    The internet is not and never was the Cartoon Network.

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  • A sticky problem. I don't think the whole world should stop using the internet to post innocent pictures of children in order to prevent any paedophiles from seeing them. Maybe there should be some way for the posters of images to delete comments made against those posts. If abusive comments were regularly deleted then the abusers may eventually give up. If abusive comments are left in place, then obviously the poster doesn't care enough to delete them and would get vilified or blocked by other users.


    I am not familiar with all social media, but in Facebook you can choose who sees those images. If they do not use those controls then they have no one to blame but themselves.

  • I don't think its necessarily abusive comments Fidget, but "compliments"....8|


    I think the only way to stop the problem, is not to have it in the first place and basically state that the internet is a place for adults and a child's use of it should be severely restricted. And I know, I don't fancy any parent trying to tell their teens they they can't upload their pics to Instagram or whatever it maybe, but it might come to that.

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  • the internet is a place for adults and a child's use of it should be severely restricted.

    That's what I say: The internet is NOT a child's toy. Despite many parents using it as another mechanical baby sitter like the TV. There are any number of adult sites that are not even suitable for teenagers that are freely accessible.

    History is much like an Endless Waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.

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  • I think I mentioned once before that a few years ago my local secondary school removed all the smart phones from the kids as they entered school, because the kids were watching porn on them and uploading various pics and vids of themselves to the internet.


    You'd think the parents would support this move, you'd think wrong. They went ballistic and tried to get the Head removed, eventually the kids were allowed to have the phones again.


    The internet is not like tv which is still highly regulated and as you say Heero, many parents are using the internet as a babysitter rather than do their jobs, which is to parent.

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  • Basically would you cover the windows of your home with pictures of your family for all the neighbours and passers by to look at, would you stick pictures of your children in underwear on the side of your car, or have a video screen attached to the roof playing all your home movies.


    I’d put that to a vote, but I’m guessing the answer is NO.

  • They're really good point Revo. Why do parents think the internet is different, then? It's a million times worse than those things you just describe, yet parents as well as their kids, seem to treat the net as some innocent toy. It's millions of computers all linked together and anything placed onto the internet, stays on there in one form or another, forever. And everything has cameras in them too now, all linked to the net...X/


    I think the net is brilliant and I certainly wouldn't want it switched off, but in the same way that I get access to the world without ever leaving my house (which I rarely do...) the world gets access to me too. There's a trade off here and one of the reasons why I would never put my real name on the internet, or say too much personal stuff. Before this site, the only real stuff I used to talk about on the internet was broadcasting, Sky and cable tv.

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  • One of the reasons I use script blocking is to help prevent the harvesting of personal data. Many people are completely unaware of how much data sites can glean from you from using a site, let alone the possibility of "drive by shooting" (The action of visiting a site without any clicks get you infected and/or harvested)


    I am well aware that from my postings on forums that a determined person could find out who I am and where I live by combining clues.

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  • A true story of a stalker as told to me by my son ( a case he investigated a few years back)



    I’ll keep it simple.



    2 people on forum actually it’s MSE site so that’s massive to start with.


    One starts to stalk the other with PM’s


    Other reports to admin.


    Member banned.


    Banned Member knows the area roughly of where they live.


    They know they drive a red car and have 2 children under 10.


    From the weekly spend dairy’s the member posted, the stalker found them.


    Scary stuff.

  • Revo, but how would they know where they lived? Unless its a pretty small town or something. What happened next? Did the stalker approach the person and their kids?


    It's basically why Facebook etc are so dangerous, because they are far more dangerous than a individual. The data they gather on people is immense and with their AI, they can join things together to find out far more about a person.

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  • Like a jigsaw they put some pieces together, I know it sounds all Mi6 but it was easy.


    Innocent information joined together.


    They found them and that was enough for the law to step in, but only because the case had online history.


    I could lay out how they did it, not rocket science, no IP pinging or channels or any of that, just joined the dots from innocent posts.


    The town was Bolton so not so small.

  • Like a jigsaw they put some pieces together,

    I know, which is why I try to be careful what I say on the net.


    This site is very NOT like me, at all. I have said far more on here about myself, than I ever had before, but that's only to try and keep the members we have here. I much prefer talking about subjects, rather than any personal stuff. As you, pieces can be joined together and its not difficult. Exactly what Facebook and the other tech companies are doing with their AI. The more people post stuff, the better their AI gets.


    (Note: This site, like all websites, gets scanned by Google, Facebook and the other big tech companies.)

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