Diane Abbott

  • Women may be deterred from entering politics because of abuse suffered by female MPs, Diane Abbott says.


    The shadow home secretary said she was speaking out about her own experiences after recently receiving a series of threats and insults.


    Last week Brexit secretary David Davis was branded "sexist" for reportedly sending a text saying he would not hug Ms Abbott because he was "not blind".


    His spokeswoman said he was "very sorry" for any offence caused.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38977784


    I really can't see what Abbott's whinging about. She's been in politics for years and mixed with some very repulsive people. ( A picture on the link show her with Bernie Grant who claimed that the police got ' a bloody good hiding' during the Broadwater Farm riots when P.C. Blakelock was killed.)


    For her to come over all girly now because David Davies implied she wasn't attractive is a bit of an incongruous stance to take. But as ever, she wants to play the victim and sob 'Poor me.' instead of getting her big girl's knickers on and growing up a bit. She's one of those who likes to bully people and dish it out but doesn't like it when someone takes the p--- out of her.


    Just for the record, I wouldn't bloody kiss her either.

  • She's trying to dig herself out of the whole she created for herself last week by creating other "news."


    Yes Diane, you didn't vote because you had a "headache". Perhaps it was a "male" kind of headache.:rolleyes::P

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  • Although I would agree with women who are bullied unnecessarily in certain places by certain people who are often men, I think politicians are a species that use bullying as a way to achieve victory over those who don't operate that way, regardless of gender or anything else.


    One isn't playing the victim when one is the victim. One is merely stating a fact. The perpetrator often believes that accusing the offended party is a way of slipping out of his own noose. It isn't. He will end up dangling from it. I think certain people should try to learn this before they kill themselves and their cause in the process of gunning for people they don't personally like.


    I don't think politics should be as filthy as it is. I think it attracts the wrong sort of people. It is full of greedy pigs, moral supremacists with ideological agendas, opportunists, power seekers with egomania and consists of individuals who often transgress the law and get away with it by dint of their position.


    Politics is a lot like corporate board shenanigans and the behaviour of the rank and file can become influenced by the bad behaviour of the top dogs so that anyone coming in from a perceived enemy ideology, group or company can get thoroughly smashed by a concerted attack by the gung-ho group and their Masters.


    I would suggest that this is why so little progress is made in many attempts to change what is rotten and upgrade what has become gutter politics, egged on by a gutter press.


    Being "nice" doesn't solve anything with these people. One can fight back but then this is often just what they want and you end up ruining your own stance by stepping into the fighting cage. Although one can, perhaps one shouldn't.


    I don't know what some people are to do instead.


    I think people like Trump are experts at boardroom politics and he will bring this to what has become a form of corporate politics, In this respect he may have to learn a few new moves but he may also be capable of withstanding the bullshit that comes his way. Time will tell.


    I think Melania is being kept out of it because Trump knows they will go for her. They have already tried to go for his son and even Chelsea Clinton came out in the boy's defence. The world is pretty rabid at the moment and the media is a big player in all of its dirty tricks, the internet now fully part of media operations.


    I think Davis was foolish to be so undiplomatic. He not only played into Abbott's hands, he is way out of line anyway.

  • I'm not saying that people shouldn't have good manners etc. but I do think that conflating a light hearted comment about her looks with discrimination against women generally is over egging the cake a bit. At that rate telling the wife her bum looks big in that dress is going to be classed as sexism. :eek:

  • Yes true, but you have to be very careful and super diplomatic when in any socially high profile position. Absolutely anything you say will be taken down and used in evidence against you. It's pathetic but that's the way it goes now. When I first came to the net sometime during the Stone Age of this invention, I was very outspoken. I soon learned that this is a crap idea and so even though I may seem quite well behaved now, it is not the way I often feel.


    There is no free speech and when there is you will be screenshot and filed away and some flippant or angry remark will be hoiked out and used against you by a flotilla of a-holes that sail around hunting "bigots". If they want silence then silence is what they will get as they have not yet learned how to read minds. When they do they may faint or perhaps die of shock. Serves them right. In the meantime, watch what you say because some feeble small brained doodad is standing by with its putrid little finger on the PrtScn button.

  • Diane Abbott struggles with questions on recent London terror report in another car crash interview


    Diane Abbott is facing fresh criticism after she struggled to answer questions in yet another interview – this time about a recent report on improving London’s terror preparedness.

    Asked about the recommendations made by Lord Harris’s October 2016 inquiry, of which there were 127, the Shadow Home Secretary could not name one.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/n…rror-report-a7774626.html


    I know Corbyn has refused to comment on whether Abbott is still line for the Home Secretary's job in the unlikely event of a Labour win, but if he doesn't keep her off the t.v. and radio he is going to make Labour and himself more of a laughing stock for making her shadow home secretary in the first place.

  • To be fair to her just this one time, to do a tv interview and to give over technical info is quite a skill, which most politicians make it look very easy. But, it's a skill she does not posses and modern politicians need to use tv interviews to communicate whatever propaganda that they wish on any given day. Dear Diane is clearly no good at this and not fit for office, excluding all the other "minor" issues like support for terrorists and extreme groups and her desire to see this country defenceless.

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  • Diane Abbott reveals diabetes forced her to take break from election campaign


    Diane Abbott has revealed she has Type 2 diabetes that was "out of control", prompting her to take time out during the closing stages of the general election campaign.


    The veteran MP also hit out at the "terrible" targeting of her by the Tories, in her first public comments on the illness that saw her replaced as shadow Home Secretary.


    Her surprise withdrawal came after struggling in broadcast interviews during the campaign.

    But in an interview with The Guardian, she said was now "ready to get back to work".


    http://www.independent.co.uk/n…bour-corbyn-a7788781.html


    Now I'm not a doctor so can't say for certain but I know quite a lot of people who have been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. In fact I have it myself. But I don't know anyone who suffers from either memory loss or an inability to do calculations because of it.


    Her trying to playing the victim now when she was presumably too stupid or arrogant to have the figures in her notes or to memorise them, won't work I'm afraid.

  • I think she is playing the victim Morgan, but as for diabetes, yes, if she has low blood sugar (hypoglycaemia) especially if she is injecting insulin, it can cause dizziness, memory loss, confusion etc. It can be fatal.


    If she is missing meals, which is very dangerous to a diabetic and she is snacking, it can bring about these symptoms.


    But would anyone dare say that it's maybe not diabetes causing her problems, but laziness and not bothering to properly prepare for interviews. Corbyn was the same, perhaps he's diabetic too.;)

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  • If you want to judge the level of sexism and racism in politics and the media, just examine the easy ride Boris Johnson gets for his lousy command of the English language in comparison with Diane Abbott and, say, Natalie Bennett.

  • And look at who the party leaders are.


    Diane Abbott made too many mistakes during media interviews. No politician survives that. You might say she lasted a little longer than most due to her race and gender but it's hard to say. It could have just been that's she's been pretty dedicated to Labour throughout her life.

  • If you want to judge the level of sexism and racism in politics and the media, just examine the easy ride Boris Johnson gets for his lousy command of the English language in comparison with Diane Abbott and, say, Natalie Bennett.

    Boris' command of English is superb, he is just an idiot and stutterers and stammers all the time whether by deliberate intent to make himself look like a clown, or because he is a clown.


    When has the media been racist or sexist to Abbott and Bennett, Plastic?

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  • And look at who the party leaders are.


    Diane Abbott made too many mistakes during media interviews. No politician survives that. You might say she lasted a little longer than most due to her race and gender but it's hard to say. It could have just been that's she's been pretty dedicated to Labour throughout her life.

    Or, that she once slept with the boss...

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  • No, it should have took you to the first unread post. If it happens again, can you make a note of it in the feedback forum, so that I can track it to see if others have problems?


    (Note: I'm still setting things up behind the scenes, but this is not something I have changed or fiddled with.)

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    I blocked all members from posting one day last week....wasn't intentional!


    Now back to the quality politicians, Diane Abbott and the Aussie cow, Natalie Bennett. Oops, was that sexist?:P:)

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  • Diane Abbott is complaining of racist and sexist abuse


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/u…f-racist-and-sexist-abuse


    She talks that this stuff is coming from social media especially Facebook and Twitter, why doesn't she simply turn them off? When did Facebook and Twitter become essential "tools" that a MP must use?


    She makes the good point that what is said to her or about her on social media via anonymous accounts, would never be said to her face. Perhaps those posting this material should be asked to repeat it under their proper names and see if they would be comfortable to do so.

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  • For someone who constantly plays the race card she needs to grow a thicker skin. If you can't take it then don't dish it out.

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  • In some respects she reminds me of one of my first teachers at primary school who talk to you as if you are 6 years old, which I was then! Dear Diane does tend to speak down to people as if they are on level at least several levels lower than herself.

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  • It's the social engineering way now. They have travelled far from actual socialism and any sense of political ideology and now simply pull out a range of cards with which to torment their oppressors and get them arrested and vilified. There is a lot of bullying and abuse and it happens to everyone, but only certain people are allowed to complain about it.


    I find this odd in a world going off its head on do-goodiness. But then, I remember Sunday school and how the teacher wasn't allowed to discipline anyone because Jesus wouldn't approve, so there were a number of rude boys who took full advantage of this. Perhaps the western world today is just a huge repeat of my hapless Sunday school teacher's dilemma.

  • I find this odd in a world going off its head on do-goodiness. But then, I remember Sunday school and how the teacher wasn't allowed to discipline anyone because Jesus wouldn't approve, so there were a number of rude boys who took full advantage of this. Perhaps the western world today is just a huge repeat of my hapless Sunday school teacher's dilemma.

    That's another idea for a new thread. Thanks LW.:thumbup:

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  • Got to think of some things, beyond the news, that I can post as threads here. I've got some lined up which were news, but I'm keeping them on the back burner and I'll stick them straight into their respective sections when I post them.

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  • Diane Abbot is to my mind, one of the most divisive characters in politics. On top of this her grasp of any given situation is amateurish. There is no place for someone of her calibre in Parliament.


    I have serious questions as to what is going on in her constituency that sees her being returned time after time. I also have concerns as to what she has on Jeremy Corbyn that sees him make so many allowances for her incompetence, and sees him keep her on the front bench. As we already know about their past, there has to be more to it/ something else that we don't know. To me he appears to be a man that is being blackmailed.

  • She's Cambridge educated. No fool, yet frequently behaves like one. I just can't work her out.

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