South China Seas: Does China Want A War?

  • At first they said their activities were exclusively peaceful, but now the Chinese are militarising "their" islands in the South China Seas? Do they want a war? Do they really think they can take on the Americans? Will Trump confront them?

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  • The US will not accept China's militarisation of man-made islands in the South China Sea, Defence Secretary James Mattis has warned.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40141541

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    It's hard to know whether The Donald is serious, but what do you think, will the Americans stand up to and potentially confront the Chinese over their "peaceful" island building aka militarising the South China Seas and threatening neighbours, or is this just posturing from Trump?

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  • Last Sunday’s sinking of an Iranian oil tanker 290 km off the coast of Shanghai certainly looks like an environmental disaster. Depending on how many of the ship’s 1 million barrels of condensate were released into the ocean and not burned off, the accident could end up being one of the biggest oil spills in half a century. The irony? Even that wouldn’t represent the biggest disaster to befall the area.


    The fact is, thanks to massive overfishing in China’s territorial waters, there isn’t much marine life left to kill in the disaster zone. According to He Pemin of Shanghai Ocean University, those waters have been so denuded over the last three decades that fishermen “normally bypass the area and go further afield for a bigger catch.”

    China has accused the United States of sending a warship without permission into what it said was its territorial waters in the disputed South China Sea, adding that it would take “necessary measures” to “safeguard its sovereignty.”


    The Chinese Foreign Ministry said Saturday that the U.S. Navy’s USS Hopper guided-missile destroyer had sailed within 12 nautical miles (22 km) of what is known as Scarborough Shoal, a group of disputed islets that Beijing calls Huangyan Island, on Wednesday night.

    These two stories from Japan are totally separate but show an important linkage, I believe.


    China's quest to control the South China Seas shows no sign of stopping, but beyond military means, there maybe another reason why China has been doing all this artificial island building over the last few years in this area.


    The first article initially talks about a oil spill in the seas but goes on to talk about the widespread damage done to the sea through overfishing. It goes on to say that Chinese fishermen have to venture further out into the sea to find fish now and explains that China is facing an every greater challenge of feeding its massive population.


    The second article talks about an American warship patrolling in the seas and coming close to the Scarborough Shoal and China has warned the Americans not to go into this area again. Quite tightly the Americans have told the Chinese where to go as they are in international waters, not Chinese.


    What is interesting about that Shoal beyond the fact that China has claimed them as its territory, is that the area is rich in fish.


    If a war were to start in the South Chine Seas, could the actual reason be one of food, rather than just China's wish to dominate and intimidate its neighbours?

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  • A British warship will sail from Australia through the disputed South China Sea next month to assert freedom of navigation rights, the UK’s defence secretary said on Tuesday in a move likely to irk Beijing.


    China claims nearly all of the resource-rich waterway and has been turning reefs and islets into islands and installing military facilities such as runways and equipment on them.

    Looks like we're getting involved in the South China Seas dispute.


    I think this is a good idea as it will show China they cannot do what they want.


    Do you think Britain should get involved, or stay out of it and leave it to others like the Americans?

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  • China tests first own aircraft carrier

    China already had an old Soviet aircraft carrier that it bought off the Russians a few years ago and modernised, but today marks a serious expansion of Chinese naval power with its own homegrown aircraft carrier.


    The ship is starting sea trials and hopes to be fully operational by 2020 and China has announced a third carrier (2nd homegrown built one) is to launch by 2022. This carrier may be nuclear powered and have catapults on them to carry more lethal planes.


    America has eleven carriers, so China is a long way from countering American naval power globally, but with this second carrier, China has catapulted itself to being the number one naval power in its local region. Not good after all its island building, which it then placed military bases on to intimidate neighbours.

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  • China has for the first time landed bombers on disputed territory in the South China Sea, its air force said, prompting fresh US warnings that it is destabilising the region.

    The long-range H-6K bomber was among those which took part in drills on islands and reefs to improve China's ability to "reach all territory".

    Does anyone remember when China said it's island building was peaceful...?:rolleyes: Is there any doubt that is now total bollocks?


    There has been various articles in the Chinese state newspapers, that the Chinese leadership would like to give America a bloody nose. During WW2, Japan's military had the same thoughts about doing the same thing to the Americans and look out how that turned out.


    The South China Sea, despite the name, does not belong to China, but as China seems to be seeking a military confrontation over the issue, then that's exactly what they'll get.

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  • China won't give up 'one inch' of territory says President Xi to Mattis

    China is committed to peace but will not give up "even one inch" of territory, President Xi Jinping has said, after talks with visiting US Defence Secretary James Mattis.

    Mr Xi added that China had peaceful intentions, but reasserted his view that there would be no concessions from China about what it considers to be Chinese territory.

    "We cannot lose even one inch of the territory left behind by our ancestors," Mr Xi said, according to Chinese state media. "What is other people's we do not want at all."

    At some point there will be a clash, especially when the Chinese president reclassifies what's Chinese territory and what's not.

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