The next prime minister will be...

  • Who will win? 3

    1. Dominic Raab (0) 0%
    2. Michael Gove (0) 0%
    3. Andrea Leadsom (0) 0%
    4. Sajid Javid (0) 0%
    5. Esther McVey (0) 0%
    6. Jeremy Hunt (0) 0%
    7. Rory Stewart (0) 0%
    8. Matt Hancock (0) 0%
    9. Mark Harper (0) 0%
    10. Boris (3) 100%

    I thought we'd better have a separate thread for the contest to be the next Conservative leader and prime minister. I'll add a poll to this post, once all the candidates are known and some news links.


    I still think Boris will be prime minister, although with today's news of his court case has made things far less clear.


    Edit: 10th June. Added poll

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  • In your poll, please make sure you have an option that says 'none of the above'. :)

    I agree, and I think it should be an option on all ballot papers too.

    Young boys in the park jumpers for goalpost that's what footballs all about isn't it.

  • I agree, and I think it should be an option on all ballot papers too.

    If the main parties continue foisting Remainers candidates upon us, I can forecast that 'none of the above' will be the winner.

  • Tricky. I don't trust Gove, he appears to think he can be the great peace maker and unite all sides, but that's what Mrs May has been doing for the past three years. No, not Gove, he will be more of the same. Dare I say it? the B word, yes I think I favour Boris! He doesn't pretend to like everyone and I like his forthright if blunt and yes on occasion clumsy approach. If not Boris, what about Raab or McVey?


    To be honest, If I was an MP right now and had aspirations of becoming Tory leader, I think I'd keep my powder dry for a couple of years. Imo the only party leader who is safe, is Farage.

  • But he's not a MP yet, although I've no doubt he would get elected if he stood.


    As I've said, my favourite if he were to stand, would be Steve Baker or any member that did not capitulate and vote for May's shitty deal which Boris, Rees-Mogg did.

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  • Just been listening to George Osborne on the radio (PM radio 4) who is of the opinion that the Conservative party are "heading for the rocks that Farage is standing on". OK I accept he is bitter about being sacked, but what he said seemed perfectly reasonable to me. Elected MP or not, the only leader who has the full backing of the party he or indeed she leads, is Nigel Farage. Osborne seems to think the Brexit Party are capable of destroying the Conservative party, a tad over the top perhaps? But it's a thought that 'should' focus anyone's mind who thinks he or she should be the next leader of the Tory party.

  • Which is why I said in the Boris thread the other day that I think the Conservative MPs will fall into line if Boris becomes PM and go along with whatever he decides. Self interest, nice pay packets and pensions are a strong motivator for them and they lose all that if Farage wipes them out at the next general election.

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  • On the BBC's Question Time, the first question was a rather good one:


    Is changing the leader a bit like jumping on the Titanic after its hit the iceberg, or something very similar.


    Rather good point!

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  • Sam Gyimah announces Tory leadership bid

    The former universities minister is the first candidate to back another referendum on Brexit.

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  • As well as this new contender, these are the other candidates for the top job:


    Boris

    Michael Gove

    Andrea Leadsom

    Dominic Raab

    James Cleverly

    Matt Hancock

    Mark Harper

    Jeremy Hunt

    Sajiid Javid

    Kit Malthouse

    Esther McVey

    Rory Stewart



    And others such as Graham Brady, Priti Patel and Penny Mordaunt may join the fight too. And a bun fight it will be!


    This all should've been done last year.

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  • The Tories have to do something about this pantomime, it's ridiculous. Christ there will be more candidates than voters if this carries on.


    I suppose I should pin my colours to the mast and say my choice would be Boris. Not because I think he is a great statesman but because he dislikes the EU and right now I'd be prepared to see Beelzebub himself as leader of the Conservative party if it got us out of the EU.

  • As I said in the Boris thread, I think he'll win it, if he's one of the candidates that the wider party membership gets to vote on. As long as he has a good number two, I suppose he can't do too much damage....:/

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  • Let's see what happens. My first thoughts are that the Remainers have been proven wrong, yet again, when they said nobody would want the PM's job, other than May!


    My second thoughts are that a Brexiter will not be put forward, if the last 40 years are anything to go by. The main parties have deliberately only given us a choice of pro-EU v pro-EU candidates (and parties), for the most part anyway. That's why we have a preponderance of pro-EU MP's. Will they learn from past mistakes? I wouldn't bet on it!

  • Let's see what happens. My first thoughts are that the Remainers have been proven wrong, yet again, when they said nobody would want the PM's job, other than May!


    My second thoughts are that a Brexiter will not be put forward, if the last 40 years are anything to go by. The main parties have deliberately only given us a choice of pro-EU v pro-EU candidates (and parties), for the most part anyway. That's why we have a preponderance of pro-EU MP's. Will they learn from past mistakes? I wouldn't bet on it!

    Once a remainiac MP always a remainiac MP, but one thing is for sure, come the next general election we will have the choice of the Brexit party. And that frightens the anti democracy, anti Great Britain pro EU establishment to death.

  • Once a remainiac MP always a remainiac MP, but one thing is for sure, come the next general election we will have the choice of the Brexit party. And that frightens the anti democracy, anti Great Britain pro EU establishment to death.

    I'm not convinced they are scared. They have managed to avoid true democracy for decades by only giving us pro-EU choices, and their 'winning formula' of restricted choice will continue. I think it will take an actual GE defeat to get rid of the anti-democrats.


    Many Remain MP's are still in denial, their Remain ego's boosted by the pro-EU MSM who claim that Remain 'won' the EU elections.

  • I'm not convinced they are scared. They have managed to avoid true democracy for decades by only giving us pro-EU choices, and their 'winning formula' of restricted choice will continue. I think it will take an actual GE defeat to get rid of the anti-democrats.


    Many Remain MP's are still in denial, their Remain ego's boosted by the pro-EU MSM who claim that Remain 'won' the EU elections.

    I think the establishment are scared of the Brexit party, the EU elections couldn't have happened at a better time. I agree we have only ever been offered pro EU choices from the LibLabCon but lets not forget UKIP, I know they are the past but without UKIP we wouldn't have had a referendum, and now we have the Brexit party. I jest not Fidget, if I were a religious man I would thank god for Nigel Farage.

  • if I were a religious man I would thank god for Nigel Farage.

    Amen to that. If full Brexit hasn't happened by the next GE there could be a seismic shift in UK politics.

    History is much like an Endless Waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.

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  • BUt that's still years away. And I doubt any new PM now would make the same mistake as May again and call a early GE.

    I'm not convinced they are scared.

    Neither am I now, despite my comments the other day that its almost certain that everyone would fall in line behind Boris. Many of these candidates are very pro-EU. Surely, the conservative party wouldn't elect another remainer again?:/

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  • Amen to that. If full Brexit hasn't happened by the next GE there could be a seismic shift in UK politics.

    Absolutely agree. I don't often agree with George Osborne but I listened to him the other day and he was of the opinion that the end of the Conservative party may be on the horizon, because of Farage. Farage is the only party leader in this country who not only has the full backing of the entire party but the majority of the electorate too. A seismic shift in UK politics is well overdue, when it comes to the EEC/EU the majority of people in this country have never been offered a choice. The pro EU establishment know damned well that Great Britain is a Eurosceptic country which is why treaties are signed without the consent of the people. It's an absolute disgrace, yet pro EU LibLabCon politicians have the bloody gall to criticise a lack of democracy in other countries. Brexit party, bring it on.

  • I've got serious concerns about all of them. Some may be Brexiters but they were too weak to stand up against May, and her destruction of the manifesto upon which they were elected.

  • I've got serious concerns about all of them. Some may be Brexiters but they were too weak to stand up against May, and her destruction of the manifesto upon which they were elected.

    A little harsh I think, how many Tory ministers have resigned over Mrs May's deal because it does not take us out of the EU. Lets not forget she said 'Brexit means Brexit', then seemed to fold and give in to the majority of remainers in government.

  • The news channels are looking forward to the press conference after their meeting. Trump is bound to say a few words about our departing prime minister.


    A little harsh I think, how many Tory ministers have resigned over Mrs May's deal because it does not take us out of the EU. Lets not forget she said 'Brexit means Brexit', then seemed to fold and give in to the majority of remainers in government.

    But Boris et all, all capitulated to her in the end and voted for her "meaningful" vote 3.


    Well in all honesty, would you expect the leader of a political party to promote the prospective leader of an opposing party?

    No, but I share Farage's concerns on Boris' Brexit credentials.

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  • Absolutely agree. I don't often agree with George Osborne but I listened to him the other day and he was of the opinion that the end of the Conservative party may be on the horizon, because of Farage. Farage is the only party leader in this country who not only has the full backing of the entire party but the majority of the electorate too. A seismic shift in UK politics is well overdue, when it comes to the EEC/EU the majority of people in this country have never been offered a choice. The pro EU establishment know damned well that Great Britain is a Eurosceptic country which is why treaties are signed without the consent of the people. It's an absolute disgrace, yet pro EU LibLabCon politicians have the bloody gall to criticise a lack of democracy in other countries. Brexit party, bring it on.

    Osbourne is playing pure politics here. Here believes that if politics swings to the extremes, that opens up a major opportunity in the future for those people (like him) who are centralists, the same centralists and elites, we rejected with the Brexit vote.

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  • Osbourne is playing pure politics here. Here believes that if politics swings to the extremes, that opens up a major opportunity in the future for those people (like him) who are centralists, the same centralists and elites, we rejected with the Brexit vote.

    I tend to agree, but in all honesty I think Osborne would say anything to discredit embarrass and ridicule Mrs May for sacking him. I have no doubt he has one eye on a return to front line politics and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back at some point. But it's a return I wouldn't welcome.

  • Neither would I and he is seeking a return, as is Cameron according to some reports last week.

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