Recent changes on the VM Network

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  • There was no overnight scan taken, which is always fun. :rolleyes:


    Hopefully there will be a scan taken at some point today, otherwise Friday and Saturday changes will be rolled over into a single update .

  • Apparently, those who get BT Sport thrown in for 'free' are being credited with £9.25 a month if they pause it. At least we now know how much of our bill is attributed to this 'free' service. (If it's paused the channels are still viewable btw).


    I'd prefer them to permanently cut it off and reduce my bill accordingly.

  • Apparently, those who get BT Sport thrown in for 'free' are being credited with £9.25 a month if they pause it. At least we now know how much of our bill is attributed to this 'free' service. (If it's paused the channels are still viewable btw).


    I'd prefer them to permanently cut it off and reduce my bill accordingly.

    What's the normal BT Sport price on other platforms? I'm just curious how much of a discount the bulk purchase has enabled.

  • What's the normal BT Sport price on other platforms? I'm just curious how much of a discount the bulk purchase has enabled.

    We get BT Sport for free with our BT TV/broadband + phone package

    A Hand Up Not A Hand Out

  • Apparently, those who get BT Sport thrown in for 'free' are being credited with £9.25 a month if they pause it. At least we now know how much of our bill is attributed to this 'free' service. (If it's paused the channels are still viewable btw).


    I'd prefer them to permanently cut it off and reduce my bill accordingly.

    Hmmm, if it costs that much it really should be an optional add on. Thanks for that info.

  • Friday brought a lot of changes to subscription packs with the channel & pack override flags added to a lot of channels. Saturday brought more of the dreaded NIT linkage changes.


    Details to follow.


    For now, a quick list of the services with pack override flags, which should now be available to everyone:


    TSID SID Service Name
    2 209 W
    2 218 Colors Cineplex
    2 223 COLORS
    3 304 Discovery Chan +1
    3 307 GOLD +1
    4 401 MTV
    5 501 I.D.
    5 504 DMAX + 1
    5 508 DMAX
    5 509 TLC+1
    5 511 I.D.+1
    5 513 SONY SAB
    5 517 Kerrang
    5 518 Box Hits
    5 519 Kiss
    5 521 Magic
    5 523 Comedy Central
    5 524 FOX
    7 715 Comedy Central +1
    7 716 Colors Rishtey
    7 720 Turner Classic Movies
    7 723 FOX+1
    10 1018 TCM +1
    11 1107 W +1
    20 2005 More 4 HD
    25 2506 MTV HD
    27 2702 Film4 HD
    28 2802 Comedy Central HD
    28 2804 TCM HD
    29 2902 FOX HD
    29 2904 E4 HD
    30 3005 GOLD HD
    31 3102 Discovery HD
    31 3104 Lifetime HD
    33 3303 Dave HD
    33 3304 W HD
    34 3406 TLC HD
  • Apparently, those who get BT Sport thrown in for 'free' are being credited with £9.25 a month if they pause it. At least we now know how much of our bill is attributed to this 'free' service. (If it's paused the channels are still viewable btw).


    I'd prefer them to permanently cut it off and reduce my bill accordingly.

    Why should we need to ask them to pause it, if they aren't providing it they shouldn't charge for it

    And how do we sake them, hang on the phone for ever to their customer service?

    A Hand Up Not A Hand Out

  • Interesting those override flags JJ20X. Some of them (e.g. the UKTV ones) weren't in the email listing 18 channels for all that VM sent out.


    Note: I've not seen the email myself. Presumably I didn't get it as I had all the ones listed

  • Why should we need to ask them to pause it, if they aren't providing it they shouldn't charge for it

    And how do we sake them, hang on the phone for ever to their customer service?

    I dare say to keep down the numbers of those enjoying a subscription holiday.

  • Interesting those override flags JJ20X. Some of them (e.g. the UKTV ones) weren't in the email listing 18 channels for all that VM sent out.


    Note: I've not seen the email myself. Presumably I didn't get it as I had all the ones listed

    What's this about? Is it a coronavirus thing or have these channels moved down permanently? Are these now in the M/Player pack? It's making less and less sense to carry on paying for the top package.


    Edit: Found this, it's only for a month https://www.virginmedia.com/vi…new-channels-on-virgin-tv

  • What's this about? Is it a coronavirus thing or have these channels moved down permanently? Are these now in the M/Player pack? It's making less and less sense to carry on paying for the top package.


    Edit: Found this, it's only for a month https://www.virginmedia.com/vi…new-channels-on-virgin-tv

    There was an email apparently. I mentioned it on Cable Forum, I didn't post here as JJ20X had posted that table by then.


    The table, though, lists flag overrides not in the email or that website link you posted. Other channels are now available on temporary basis, see JJ20x's table and compare it to the channels on that link you gave.


    The earlier clue was in the word override. Override flags are for temporary changes. They would have changed it differently if it was a permanent change of tier for the relevant channel(s).

  • The earlier clue was in the word override. Override flags are for temporary changes. They would have changed it differently if it was a permanent change of tier for the relevant channel(s).

    The odd thing being that VM have not been using the pack override flag recently but adding extra pack codes, so this is a switch back to the earlier way of doing things. There are actually 2 "override" flags, one being the PSB flag and the ofter being FTV - this is the FTV version.

  • Bringing the NIT Linkage tables up to date for April's changes to date:


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    02/04/2020 Brighton, & Preston 1 10071 10070>10072 0 255 Level 0 (Samsung - new) and level 255 (Cisco) - Not firmware updates
    10073 10076 1 1 Level 1 updates
                 
                 
    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/04/2020 Barnsley 2 & 4 10071 10070>10072 0 255 Level 0 (Samsung - new) and level 255 (Cisco) - Not firmware updates
    03/04/2020 Barnsley 2 10075>10073 10074>10076 1 1 Level 1 updates
    03/04/2020 Barnsley 1 & 4 (Sheffield), Knowsley 1 & 2, Preston 1, Bristol 1 & 2 (ex Aztec), Wolverhampton 1 & 2, Hayes, Edinburgh 1 (SCOTLAND), Liverpool TDN, Portsmouth, Poole, Brighton, Manchester 3, Leeds, Lewisham, & Southampton 10073 10076 1 1 Level 1 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/04/2020 Barnsley 1, Croydon, Hayes, TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE), VM Hammersmith, Portsmouth, Derby, Manchester 1, & Lewisham 10073 10076 3 3 Level 3 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/04/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) 10073 10076 4 4 Level 4 updates
  • Bringing everything else up to date. There will possible be some duplication of anything posted at the beginning of March.


    The rebrands:


    Date TSID SID EPG Previous Service Name Previous EPG Name New Service Name New EPG Name
    02/03/2020 32 3203 410 Sky Drama HD SkyDramaHD Sky Women In Film HD WmenFilmHD
    02/03/2020 34 3402 406 Sky Family HD SkyFamilyHD Sky Kid Books HD KidBooksHD
    05/03/2020 1 10010 0 DL_Sam_TiVoSBE_10010 DL_SamTSBE DL_Sam_TiVoBL_10010 DL_SamTBL
    07/03/2020 30 3003 411 Sky SciFi & Hor HD SkySciFiHD Sky Monsters HD SkyMnstrHD
    09/03/2020 11 1110 515 Sky Sports Golf SkySp Golf Sky The Players SkyPlayers
    09/03/2020 23 2307 505 Sky Sports Golf HD SkyGolfHD Sky The Players HD PlayersHD
    09/03/2020 32 3203 410 Sky Women In Film HD WmenFilmHD Sky Drama HD SkyDramaHD
    09/03/2020 34 3402 406 Sky Kid Books HD KidBooksHD Sky Family HD SkyFamilyHD
    17/03/2020 11 1110 515 Sky The Players SkyPlayers Sky Sports Golf SkySp Golf
    17/03/2020 23 2307 505 Sky The Players HD PlayersHD Sky Sports Golf HD SkyGolfHD
    20/03/2020 32 3202 402 Sky Superheroes HD SkyHero HD Sky Animation HD AnimationHD
    23/03/2020 30 3003 411 Sky Monsters HD SkyMnstrHD Sky SciFi & Hor HD SkySciFiHD
    23/03/2020 32 3202 402 Sky Animation HD AnimationHD Sky Superheroes HD HeroesHD
    27/03/2020 30 3004 404 Sky Greats HD GreatsHD Sky Musicals HD MusicalsHD
    28/03/2020 20 2002 407 Sky Action HD SkyActnHD Sky Star Wars HD StarWarsHD
    01/04/2020 4 407 316 MTV 80s MTV 80s MTV Classic MTV Classic
    01/04/2020 7 703 716 Nick Jr Too NickJrToo Nick Jr. Peppa NJr. Peppa
    04/04/2020 32 3202 402 Sky Superheroes HD HeroesHD Sky Select HD SkySelctHD



    The new services:


    Date Serial ID TSID SID EPG Service Name EPG Name Genre Flag EPG Flags Subscription Pack Flags Testing on internal networks Notes
    18/03/2020 2123 18 1802 666 HZNFATST HZNFATST see earlier post see earlier post see earlier post VM Hammersmith Testing on additional internal network.
    18/03/2020 2124 4 416 642 Channel A SD ChannelASD Documentaries Broadcast
    Hidden
    Sky1
    Sky2
    Segment not yet added TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) & Code Download Test (Portsmouth) added 19/03/2020 New services testing
    18/03/2020 2126 5 522 644 Channel B SD ChannelBSD Documentaries Broadcast
    Hidden
    Sky1
    Sky2
    Segment not yet added
    18/03/2020 2127 20 2006 643 Channel B HD ChannelBHD Documentaries Broadcast
    Hidden
    Sky1
    HD
    Sky2
    Chan & Pack Override added 31/03/2020
    18/03/2020 2125 25 2507 641 Channel A HD ChannelAHD Documentaries Broadcast
    Hidden
    Sky1
    HD
    Sky2
    Chan & Pack Override added 31/03/2020



    The housekeeping changes:


    Date TSID Old SID New SID SID Name Notes
    18/03/2020 5 522 550 Box Upfront Moved to placeholder SID
    18/03/2020 20 2006 2050 ZooMoo HD Moved to placeholder SID


    The conditional access mode flag in the SDT root was changed to "not encrypted" for ZooMoo HD.



    The free to view periods:


    Date TSID SID EPG SID Name Channel Code Pack Codes Added Notes
    23/03/2020 4 418 730 Boomerang Override added M/Player, More Free To View Period
    23/03/2020 4 419 731 Boomerang +1 Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 4 425 704 Cartoon Network Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 5 525 706 Cartoonito Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 703 716 Nick Jr Too Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 705 715 Nick Junior Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 708 713 Nick +1 Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 709 717 Nicktoons Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 710 712 Nickelodeon Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 8 825 705 Cartoon Network +1 Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 25 2505 714 Nick HD Override added M/Player, More, Mix, M+, L/Fun
    23/03/2020 34 3404 732 Cartoon Network HD Override added M/Player, More, Mix, M+, L/Fun
    23/03/2020 4 435   Kids Tier   L/Fun, XL/Fun House  


    Date TSID SID EPG SID Name Channel Code Pack Codes Added Notes
    03/04/2020 2 209 125 W Override added Override added Free To View Period
    03/04/2020 2 218 828 Colors Cineplex Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 2 223 826 COLORS Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 3 304 258 Discovery Chan +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 3 307 194 GOLD +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 4 401 183 MTV Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 501 168 I.D. Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 504 214 DMAX + 1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 508 171 DMAX Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 509 172 TLC+1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 511 173 I.D.+1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 513 807 SONY SAB Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 517 342 Kerrang Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 518 336 Box Hits Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 519 338 Kiss Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 521 340 Magic Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 523 181 Comedy Central Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 524 157 FOX Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 7 715 133 Comedy Central +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 7 716 827 Colors Rishtey Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 7 720 415 Turner Classic Movies Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 7 723 158 FOX+1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 10 1018 417 TCM +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 11 1107 190 W +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 20 2005 195 More 4 HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 25 2506 134 MTV HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 27 2702 429 Film4 HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 28 2802 132 Comedy Central HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 28 2804 416 TCM HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 29 2902 199 FOX HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 29 2904 145 E4 HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 30 3005 124 GOLD HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 31 3102 250 Discovery HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 31 3104 208 Lifetime HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 33 3303 227 Dave HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 33 3304 211 W HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 34 3406 167 TLC HD Override added Override added
  • For those who prefer to see the current "free to view" channels in channel number order:


    EPG SID Name TSID SID
    124 GOLD HD 30 3005
    125 W 2 209
    132 Comedy Central HD 28 2802
    133 Comedy Central +1 7 715
    134 MTV HD 25 2506
    145 E4 HD 29 2904
    157 FOX 5 524
    158 FOX+1 7 723
    167 TLC HD 34 3406
    168 I.D. 5 501
    171 DMAX 5 508
    172 TLC+1 5 509
    173 I.D.+1 5 511
    181 Comedy Central 5 523
    183 MTV 4 401
    190 W +1 11 1107
    194 GOLD +1 3 307
    195 More 4 HD 20 2005
    199 FOX HD 29 2902
    208 Lifetime HD 31 3104
    211 W HD 33 3304
    214 DMAX + 1 5 504
    227 Dave HD 33 3303
    250 Discovery HD 31 3102
    258 Discovery Chan +1 3 304
    336 Box Hits 5 518
    338 Kiss 5 519
    340 Magic 5 521
    342 Kerrang 5 517
    415 Turner Classic Movies 7 720
    416 TCM HD 28 2804
    417 TCM +1 10 1018
    429 Film4 HD 27 2702
    704 Cartoon Network 4 425
    705 Cartoon Network +1 8 825
    706 Cartoonito 5 525
    712 Nickelodeon 7 710
    713 Nick +1 7 708
    714 Nick HD 25 2505
    715 Nick Junior 7 705
    716 Nick Jr Too 7 703
    717 Nicktoons 7 709
    730 Boomerang 4 418
    731 Boomerang +1 4 419
    732 Cartoon Network HD 34 3404
    807 SONY SAB 5 513
    826 COLORS 2 223
    827 Colors Rishtey 7 716
    828 Colors Cineplex 2 218
  • With the analysis brought up to date, the analysts will shortly move on to archiving the February and March data.


    Going forward, a schedule has been drawn up for batch processing the detailed analysis with certain trigger events prompting a batch analysis (e.g. a second rebrand of a channel within the scheduling period will prompt a batch analysis of all data up to the day before the rebrand, the date of the second rebrand would then start a new scheduling period).


    This means that a detailed analysis won't be available for a daily update on this thread. For the moment, I will update the thread from the scanners logs, which are now quite detailed but don't provide details such as channel numbers. Where appropriate, the scanners or the analysts will also complete the first level of data extraction and analysis, which does provide more data such as channel numbers and unique serial numbers. Hopefully, that will provide enough information to keep the reports updated. There isn't another option at the moment with the limited number of scanners and analysts available.