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  • Cyril should have been made Prez when Mandela retired. Job was given to reverse racist comrades from the struggle instead and Cyril was done out of a position he would have used to further the success of SA's transition, rather then to plunge everyone but a strata of political elites into dire straits. Cyril is a business man, not a wannabe chief. This huge difference has kept Ramaphosa from power.

    In real terms, the ANC had destroyed itself and the opposition needs to become the next government in order to begin the reversal of that destruction., The major cities under opposition municipal governance are already showing great strides forward, but a general election defeat would finalise the death star that is the ANC. They could have been successful, but they grabbed the cash instead and associated themselves and surrounded themselves with dodgy support, and in Zuma's case, virtually sold the country by means of State Capture to a family of Indians.

    I agree with you that Britain is staring its own demise in the face. I was so upset about this way back when I came to support its revival on the net, that I hoped British people might do something wonderful to overturn the damage. Brexit was the great hope. I'm not so sure now that the new voters are going to be capable of comprehending what they are losing by their present indolence on the matter of heritage, survival and the necessity of independence. They seem oblivious to everything that isn't a message on a small screen. That goes for this lot world wide.

    It gives the window of opportunity to whichever usurper is waiting for a chance to lop off the head of an ancient nation and weld the body onto the new fascist global market of a few super rich beings who control the great mass of human economic slaves.

    Sci-fi imitates life, it seems. Mostly because few are willing to step up to the plate and say the emperors are naked.

  • Well, it's a start ...

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    Finally, after almost a decade of ducking and diving, and squandering millions of rands of public money on his own legal fees, President Jacob Zuma will now face 783 charges of corruption, fraud and racketeering for stealing the people’s money.

    The Democratic Alliance (DA) welcomes the judgment handed down by the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) this morning, which flatly rejected President Jacob Zuma’s appeal of the 2016 North Gauteng High Court ruling that set aside the decision to drop these charges eight and a half years ago. The court found that the decision to drop these charges was borne from undue political considerations and, therefore, irrational.

    Today’s judgment is a win for justice, the rule of law, and for South Africa. Jacob Zuma will not defeat the ends of justice. The law applies to all, regardless of status.

    The matter is now straightforward. The charges now stand, and a court of law must hear this matter. If the President is innocent, as he proclaims, he ought to let a trial court decide on his innocence. His actions over the last decade smack of a desperate attempt to avoid this eventuality. These are the actions of a man who knows he has a lot to answer for.

    https://www.da.org.za/2017/10/spy-ta…th-africa-wins/

  • Julius? He hasn't been ANC Youth Leader for some time. Now he's with the EFF.

    Julius isn't a Nazi, he is ostensibly a socialist with heavy commie leanings but mostly he's a rich lad who capitalises on poverty to gain political clout. The EFF were kingmakers in the recent municipal elections, and they are highly critical of the corruption in the ANC.

    They do have some very unwise ideals centred on anti-white racism but they also have a large following because that isn't all they are concerned about. Scary? Yes. Because Julius and his comrades have made infamous the song "One settler, one bullet."

    http://www.effonline.org/

  • Yes, he likes Uncle Bob. But then, so does Zuma. Julius is a maverick but certainly not a nazi as he isn't a nationalist and is basically oriented toward communism. It's why the EFF wear red. We try not to think about what can go wrong as our lives here are very precarious and getting more so every day under Zuma's regime. We have to survive because we have nowhere else to go. Our ancestral homelands are far too busy kowtowing to globalisation and multiculturalism to be even vaguely interested in us. Mrs Thatcher did care, but she is gone. We are the people the post colonialists left behind.

  • Your comment "things can change very quickly," which you said in another thread and one that I didn't entirely agree is still ringing in my ears, LW, what with the situation in Spain and Iraq to name two places.

    As long as people like Julias stay away, you'll be fine. The leaders in the "homelands" don't even care about their own people let alone anyone else. It will change, and perhaps change rather suddenly one day.

    Do you know what, I don't think Mrs T has been mentioned on here until now. It's interesting how people fade from memories, even famous people.

  • Mrs T cooked her goose with her attitude toward the miners. She forgot they were people and she neglected the most important fact, they were her people. It's good to be a strong leader and take no crap from any quarter, but it is fatal to forget who you are and that the people are part of you when you take leadership of any political party. You aren't there just for some of them but for all of them, for the nation. Thatcher did have some sense of this at first, but it faded.

    The reason why Mandela was so popular when he became President was charisma as a leader of the nation. That put South Africa on the road to recovery by allowing it to continue along the road of progress that incorporated all the nation and nations and all the classes, not just a little coterie of thieves. But Mandela was too ill and elderly to hold that position and came to it too late, so the ANC put aside his aspirations and went for the cash. Under Zuma, they have disgraced themselves beyond redemption.

    The situation in Spain and Iraq? Powder keg of historical tensions. It will blow. Just because someone may put a lid on it for now, or try to crush the people who have legitimate causes doesn't mean they kill the seed of regeneration. That seed tries to germinate all over the world in many nations that have their origins in oppression and conquest. Even in places like the Americas. That seed still tries for the light, centuries later.

    One way power groups can get rid of it, in their belief system, is to encourage the people who were conquered to interbreed with the conquerors. To remove their sense of identity and replace it with a new one. To make them forget their ancestors, their people and their heritage. Not to rewrite history, but to blot it out. They call this "multiculturalism" and America's liberal/left have taken this to a powerful socio-political tool in the attempt of a few to gain control over the many. It is the root of globalism, multiculturalism's bigger, uglier sister, and it's enforced today by some really mean-spirited legislation.

    But even though the bigwigs might think they have finally cowed the people, things have a habit of rising from the grave of history and coming back to bite them. That is what I mean by the way things can change suddenly. All that is needed is a charismatic leader and this is why, everywhere they can, on the internet and anywhere in political movements or new ideological causes, the voices that have strength and power because they have genuine love for their people and their heritage, get squished by armies of trolls. Long ago, they hanged dissidents for treason or some trumped up charge, burned them as "witches" or tortured them into silence and by doing so, they terrorised the people into abandoning their causes and their identities.

    But, like seeds after rain, the new spirits rise up from the bones of the old and the causes are brought back to life and the fallen torches are found by young people who take them up, are infused with the same spirit of justice and boom, revolution.

    Perhaps, when the cash mongering, power seeking wizards of oppression who wear masks with smiles painted on them to hide the truth beneath finally realise that their mission is hopeless, they will give up the struggle to conquer the world. But it's up to the people whether this happens or not. If the people are too busy babbling on facebook or looking at cute cat pictures and weeping over targeted causes, they will be blind to their opportunities to resist the honeyed voices of the "caring" social engineers.

    So, as is so often the case, the people get what the people want because the people don't realise that what they think they want is actually what their leaders want. The puppeteer tells them which way to leap and they leap, stabbing their own folk in the back in their eagerness to jerk about to the music of threats and rewards.

    It's a very old story and it isn't about God, it's about us. We are our own worst enemies when it comes to believing any old narrative that comes from the mouths of self appointed prophets. We still bow to the authority of creeds, while, as D.H. Lawrence put it in his novel The Rainbow, "the stars are wheeling in freedom" above us.

  • Mod note

    Little Wing

    I have merged three of your threads and one of mine into here to create a central topic about the demise of Zuma and the rise of the opposition against him. All the other threads were on the same/similar themes. Better to have fewer threads with more replies, than lots of threads with few or no replies.

    The topics merged into here are:

    Zuma loses - South Africa wins - by Little Wing

    Zuma survives no-confidence vote - by Horizon

    A Shadow Criminal State - by Little Wing

    South African opposition leader deported from Zambia - by Little Wing

  • Guptas to be investigated by the FBI.

    JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - The FBI has opened an investigation into U.S. links to South Africa’s Guptas, escalating a scandal over the family’s alleged use of a friendship with President Jacob Zuma to control state businesses, the Financial Times said on Thursday.

  • There was another story in the week related to the Guptas too, which I'll find and post. I've got about two dozen stories from last week just to catch up on!

    The sooner Zuma is gone from your country, LW, the better. How can a country develop when there are cockroaches and leeches at the top?

  • Ah, here we go, here's the story I was talking about:

    UK financial regulators and the Serious Fraud Office are to review if banks HSBC and Standard Chartered are linked to a South Africa corruption scandal.

    It comes after Lord Peter Hain said the banks may "inadvertently have been conduits" for laundered money.

    The Labour peer told the House of Lords that up to £400m of illicit funds may have been moved by the banks.

    His concerns relate to links between South Africa's President Jacob Zuma and a wealthy business family, the Guptas.

    HSBC and money laundering, who would have thought it? It's not as if they've ever been involved in such things before (Mexican drug gangs) is it?

    The sooner this mess is sorted out, the sooner some of this money might start flowing into the hands of South Africans who really need it.

    Clearly, the Guptas were given a free hand by Zuma in return for his "cut" of the slush funds.

  • Billions thrown away while 4 children a day die of starvation in SA

    South African Airways (SAA) is a black-hole robbing South Africans of resources that could be better used in areas such as job opportunities, education, service delivery, and poverty and hunger alleviation.

    Four children die a day of hunger, but the ANC government would rather spend R35 billion of the people’s money to continue flying their rich friends across the country and abroad.

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