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  • If we can afford HS2 we can afford to build enough houses complete with necessary infrastructure

    I don't believe we should build HS2, but that's another topic. I would argue the opposite though, if we spend over £100bn on HS2, we won't have anything left for housing. Surely that makes more sense.

    Remember this topic is climate change. Nobody can deny that biggest factor behind climate change is our specie. It is therefore logical that the fewer of us there are, the less impact we will have on the planet. Digging up millions of tons of lithium for car batteries, and putting inefficient wind turbines is a very small p155 in a very large ocean. I am going to be dead before the impact becomes unbearable, but all I can tell you is that the major nations attempt to do anything about this is futile.

    The intelligent are being oppressed so the stupid don't get offended

  • I suppose you are one of these people who fly over the British countryside and think there is loads of space for houses, well there isn't. If we build houses, we need to build the infrastructure to go with them, and somebody has to pay for that. The additional housing also needs to have work nearby, otherwise we are just building ghettos. The housing needs to be paid for. By that I mean people who either buy the property, or pay to rent it, not people on benefits who will have it paid for by the tax payer. It also needs to be somewhere where it isn't going to upset the water table, and with the additional rain we are likely to get, there aren't going to be many more places. We should also not forget the beautiful countryside we are likely to ruin, let alone the wild life's habitat we will be destroying. Building more houses will have a negative ecological affect, and is likely to be on the doorstep of people who will be distraught by the construction. You see, we actually have more than enough housing. Try telling the thousands of people who have had a property on Right Move for the last two years that there isn't enough houses. What we don't have is enough houses for people to live in free of charge, and to be honest, I don't care if they have to live in tents !

    You write as if we were running out of land, I think it's less than 10% of the land is actually built on so there's plenty available

    Flood plains - that's a planning issue, easily surmounted

  • If we can afford HS2 we can afford to build enough houses complete with necessary infrastructure

    We won't have such a housing problem when we start controlling immigration, whereas we need HS2 to help people get around the country better, as other major economies such has France have done. If we want to be a global power, we must have all the infrastructure in place.

    You seem to base all your arguments on encouraging people to opt for Britain to become a backwater. Brexiteers have other ideas.

  • You write as if we were running out of land, I think it's less than 10% of the land is actually built on so there's plenty available

    Flood plains - that's a planning issue, easily surmounted

    You will find that 10% is far more than the vast majority of countries. Please read my last post, it's not just flood plains. How about farm land, common space, and wild life. In addition to the housing, the infrastructure has to be built to support the properties. The country is horribly overpopulated with the sole animal that is causing global warming, so the last thing we should be doing is encouraging further growth of the population by building more houses.

    The intelligent are being oppressed so the stupid don't get offended

  • True unfortunately

    But is it?

    British Rail was then the leech on the Exchequer, wasting millions on empty trains and strangled by the unions. Remember that man who I think was called Greene who was always having to "consult his executive"

  • But is it?

    British Rail was then the leech on the Exchequer, wasting millions on empty trains and strangled by the unions. Remember that man who I think was called Greene who was always having to "consult his executive"

    The unions were given too much power as a result of socialist doctrine, means of production and all that cobblers. The unions are as much to blame for this as anyone, same as the miners...

    ...however, torching the kingdom because the peasants were revolting was hardly the way to deal with the issue. It was, once again ideology that killed the railways in the Beeching era. The railways were and are an essential national service that should not be regarded as a business that has to make a profit to survive. The cuts were a massive act of shortsighted political vandalism. I know that there is a fairly low level programme of restoring some of the cut lines but this should be something that would be seen as an ideal alternative to HS2, to restore as much of the line and stations cut by Beeching as possible. Surprisingly most of it could be restored.

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • The railways were and are an essential national service that should not be regarded as a business that has to make a profit to survive. The cuts were a massive act of shortsighted political vandalism

    I think you are missing the point. In the 60s cars were king and the railways were the pits, no government would carry on pouring taxpayers hard earned cash in

  • I think you are missing the point. In the 60s cars were king and the railways were the pits, no government would carry on pouring taxpayers hard earned cash in

    ...and you don't know what you've got til its gone, they paved paradise and put up a parking lot...

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • ...and you don't know what you've got til its gone, they paved paradise and put up a parking lot...

    They were on the right lines, recognising that Cortina man would be the future focus. Earnest Marples who was MacMillan's close fellow MP (and who's peculiar sexual activities were conveniently overshadowed by Profumo/Keeler) was responsible for transport and started the introduction of motorways. This continued apace and the road network developed to keep pace with the growth of car ownership

    For some reason this stopped, had it continued with adequate parking and infrastructure there would be no problem today

  • "Up in smoke: Ban on the sale of wet wood and house coal hits 2.5 million homes as the Government clamps down on toxic air pollution

    • From 2021 traditional coal and wet wood used by thousands will be phased out
    • Burning these emits huge amounts of minuscule pollutants known as PM2.5
    • Particles can cause or aggravate asthma, strokes, lung cancer and heart disease
    • The move could force households to switch to more expensive ways of heating"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8…-pollution.html

    If there are any coal mines left this will be the final nail in the Tory/NUM coffin

    I agree with the wood burner control, our neighbours have installed one and sometimes the stink is awful yet others brings back memories of the boy scout camp fires

  • They were on the right lines, recognising that Cortina man would be the future focus. Earnest Marples who was MacMillan's close fellow MP (and who's peculiar sexual activities were conveniently overshadowed by Profumo/Keeler) was responsible for transport and started the introduction of motorways. This continued apace and the road network developed to keep pace with the growth of car ownership

    For some reason this stopped, had it continued with adequate parking and infrastructure there would be no problem today

    I think with hindsight and not too much is required we can see the folly of their thinking

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • I think with hindsight and not too much is required we can see the folly of their thinking

    Hindsight is wonderful, with it I can think of a good few examples of government action that would have been wiser to have not touched

  • "Up in smoke: Ban on the sale of wet wood and house coal hits 2.5 million homes as the Government clamps down on toxic air pollution

    • From 2021 traditional coal and wet wood used by thousands will be phased out
    • Burning these emits huge amounts of minuscule pollutants known as PM2.5
    • Particles can cause or aggravate asthma, strokes, lung cancer and heart disease
    • The move could force households to switch to more expensive ways of heating"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8…-pollution.html

    If there are any coal mines left this will be the final nail in the Tory/NUM coffin

    I agree with the wood burner control, our neighbours have installed one and sometimes the stink is awful yet others brings back memories of the boy scout camp fires

    About time. In the part of the country I live, multi burners are very popular, and during the winter the entire village smells like a bonfire. Get rid of the entire lot, that's what I say !

    The intelligent are being oppressed so the stupid don't get offended

  • Hindsight is wonderful, with it I can think of a good few examples of government action that would have been wiser to have not touched

    On that we can agree - break out the Champagne or English Sparkling Wine :)

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • Why Climate Change Isn’t Our Biggest Environmental Problem, and Why Technology Won’t Save Us

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