See, and we do same with us and uk forces in iraq, afghanistan and syria.
I note once again you refuse to respond to my comment ref Saddam Hussein as to why/how hanging him was pronounced.
See, and we do same with us and uk forces in iraq, afghanistan and syria.
I note once again you refuse to respond to my comment ref Saddam Hussein as to why/how hanging him was pronounced.
Actually it wasn't, he made a key point that lies to the heart of many of the world's problems.
As long as some countries see others as being in their sphere of influence aka under their control, there will never be a peaceful world.
I disagree, he always deflects to avoid difficult questions
I note once again you refuse to respond to my comment ref Saddam Hussein as to why/how hanging him was pronounced.
Saddam was a key US ally. He knew too much.
I disagree, he always deflects to avoid difficult questions
Like what question?
Saddam was a key US ally. He knew too much.
We all know he was hanged. I am asking if you know why he was hanged?
Display MoreDarioush...... you are quite right that our troops were on an illegal mission in Iraq and Afghanistan but you need to understand a few things that may not have been pointed out to you.
Britain was sucked into the American wars of revenge by the then President G W Bush, who persuaded our then Prime Minister, Tony Blair to enter the wars.
Britain has a long history of being Washington's poodle and the USA needed the support of another permanent member of the UN Security Council to give their mission a veneer of legality. Britain was a sop to US interests and Tony Blair a compliant fool.
In an attempt to gain public support for entry into the wars, Blair used falsified security reports, now known as "The Dodgy Dossier" which convinced the public and other MP's that Britain was on the verge of attack by Iraq. One British weapons inspector, Dr David Kelly, who denied that such an attack was forthcoming was found dead....... the public was told he had committed suicide..... but the circumstances were highly suspicious. The British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook resigned from office rather than support the wars and slowly but surely, public opinion turned against them. Blair, however, won a vote in Parliament and proceeded to commit our troops to the wars.
The British people demonstrated against this. Marches and demonstrations took place in 600 cities and towns in UK, including one march in London that I took part in, which attracted an estimated one million people.
The upshot of all this is that it is not the British people who entered us into those wars, it was the British government, now deposed and long gone.
It is true that we have Islamophobia here, but it is confined mostly to small groups of extremists such as the so-called English Defence League who are a motley band of football hooligans, racists and other assorted ne'er do well's. They make a lot of noise but they are few in number and un-representative of the majority of British people who wish muslims no harm and oppose any further British involvement in Middle Eastern conflicts.
However....... attacks that have taken place in London and other cities, mostly by radicalised British muslims have allowed British extremists to claim that muslims are violent people who wish to install Sharia Law in Britain. Most of us know that this is ridiculous, but still they tout this lie and it gains traction among the gullible and easily inflamed.
The British people have a very strong connection to our armed forces and things like the murder of Lee Rigby stir up intense emotions. Such attacks do not weaken our resolve, they only strengthen it. Islamic radicals cannot wear us down with violence, they will only make us all the more defiant.
Britain will not be defeated by terrorism and you must understand that we - the average British citizen - are not your enemy. Our troops should not be in your country, but that is the fault of our government, not our people. If it were up to me I'd bring the troops home tomorrow.
I believe the resolution to our differences lies in - in the international arena - diplomacy, and in our society, by tolerance and understanding. This won't be easy when the USA is led by a monster like Trump and Britain now in the hands of a buffoon, but they won't be in office forever. Diplomacy won't be easy but we have to try. It may be a long haul, but we must never give in.
I think Muslim leaders in Britain should be more proactive in condemning terrorist acts and trying to reassure British people that Sharia Law is NOT their aim in this country. Such an aim would be an unacceptable threat to our Parliamentary democracy. We have one secular law and it applies to every citizen regardless of race, colour, creed or belief. I believe Muslims living here accept this. Muslim leaders must get that message across better.
Islamic leaders in Britain and the British government must do more to counter the propaganda of extremists on both sides. Deny attempting to impose Sharia Law and condemn hate preachers in Mosques who foment disharmony and radicalise British muslims. The British government should withdraw our troops and take action against extremist groups who break anti-racist and discrimination laws.
We can live in peace with each other but both sides have a lot of work to do.
But for you, most importantly, please know that the British people are not your enemy.
You do realise don't you that you're talking to a mad dog who won't to talk to infidel bitches, only to other infidel dogs who are willing to provide hopelessly sane or rational or pointless arguments that offer a platform for the mad dog to carry on barking
We all know he was hanged. I am asking if you know why he was hanged?
He was hanged because he knew all the dirty secrets from usa and uk.
What was the official reason?
Bush and Blair quite rightly wanted rid of him
As Obama and Cameron wanted rid of Qaddafi
What was the official reason?
I dont know, im not iraqi.
I dont know, im not iraqi.
That's unusual, you seem to think you know everything else about the Middle East
I am raising this to show the absolute shenanigans from those with real power.
I say this purely from a legal base:
Blair and Bush can lawfully be convicted of murder (yes I know it will never happen) Lawfully, judicially, properly can be convicted on a proper indictment for murder.
This is why:.............
The invasion of Iraq was unlawful and had not proper, legal backing. Invasion of a sovereign state etc.
They had to show a link to legal authority in order to hang him. The public were not told. Saddams own Army, close protection unit, tried to overthrow him. They attempted to kill him. Saddam rounded them all up and had them shot. But he shot them without a trial. So Blair and Bush tried Saddam for killing his OWN people (soldiers) without a trial ... Murder. He was convicted and hanged. The paper work - lawful documents - showed he was sentenced to death (Hanging) as he was convicted of murder.
Blair and Bush knew there was NOT any WMDs... they knew 100% WMDs did not exist... yet they still sent troops into Iraq also knowing full well that a number of those troops would be killed.
It is an offence, criminal offence, to knowingly send a person into a situation whereby the likelihood is they will be killed or seriously harmed. Under US and UK law this is an offence of Murder.
Thereby lawfully, legally, properly rendering Blair and Bush to arrest and charges for murder.
No matter how you cut it what i have stated is 100% legally correct. Correct in fact and correct in law.
IMO Blair and Bush are no better than Hitler. Both should be hung drawn and quartered. We can't have one rule for one and a different rule for another. They are war criminals plain and simple. If the prosecution did not drop the case for treason at the last minute on Katharine Gun then the British government would have incriminated themselves. Actually that's not strictly true but the truth would have been out in the open officially that the CIA and GCHQ planned to falsify the story of WMD with T Blair's full approval for the purpose of war.
The war would have not have gone ahead if that case went to trial. Even the Crown Magistrate (old bailey judge) was pissed off with the prosecution for wasting his and the courts time. The prosecution where counting on her pleading guilty but she pleaded innocent LOL They could not have all the defence evidence publicly aired or T Blair would have been accountable. He may have even been called as a witness along with members of GCHQ. Corruption at the highest levels.
Iran May Have a Fleet of Communist Killer Dolphins
Is this April 1st?
IMO Blair and Bush are no better than Hitler.
If you include Cameron for aiding and abetting the removal of Gaddafi in this analogy, do you think that Saddam Husein should have been allowed to continue their murderous campaigns?
Iran did freeze its nuclear program as we had a deal with the west. We had the deal that we wont use nuclear weapons and can follow our right to use nuclear power for energy production. At same time we had free trade.
Iran is in dire need for new aircrafts. Most of our fleet is many decades old. Trump broke our deal and now our old aircrafts cant even get fuel when landing in the west, dont get repaired, get no spare parts.
Experts say this will change drastical, once we have the bomb. Just like North Korea Iran can simply force the west to drop the sanctions.
The west is to weak to stop us from building the bomb. Insiders say Iran can aqquire it within one year and 6 months.
So what will happen after Iran gets the bomb?
I think events will develop in a better direction. What we have right now helps nobody. The west hates us but is too weak and scared to attack us directly. So what we have are idiotic and hurtful sanctions against the people of Iran. Once Iran has teh bomb that changes. We become untouchable. We can force sanctions to end.
Display MoreIran did freeze its nuclear program as we had a deal with the west. We had the deal that we wont use nuclear weapons and can follow our right to use nuclear power for energy production. At same time we had free trade.
Iran is in dire need for new aircrafts. Most of our fleet is many decades old. Trump broke our deal and now our old aircrafts cant even get fuel when landing in the west, dont get repaired, get no spare parts.
Experts say this will change drastical, once we have the bomb. Just like North Korea Iran can simply force the west to drop the sanctions.
The west is to weak to stop us from building the bomb. Insiders say Iran can aqquire it within one year and 6 months.
So what will happen after Iran gets the bomb?
- The Islamic Republic is a revisionist state that seeks to undermine what it perceives to be the American-dominated order in the Middle East. However, it does not have territorial ambitions and does not seek to invade, conquer, or occupy other nations.
- Nuclear arms would probably reinforce Iran's traditional national security objectives, including deterring a U.S. or Israeli attack.
- Iran is unlikely to use nuclear weapons against other Muslim countries, particularly in view of its diminishing influence and deteriorating economy; it is unlikely to use them against Israel given Israel's overwhelming military superiority.
- The Iranian government does not use terrorism for ideological reasons. Instead, Iran's support for terrorism is motivated by cost and benefit calculations, with the aims of maintaining deterrence and preserving or expanding its influence in the Middle East.
- Iran's possession of nuclear weapons will create greater instability in the Middle East. An inadvertent or accidental nuclear exchange between Israel and Iran is a dangerous possibility. However, there is not much evidence to suggest that rogue elements could have easy access to Iranian nuclear weapons, even if the Islamic Republic were to collapse.
- Elements of the political elite, including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, may be fervent Mahdists or millenarians, but their beliefs are not directly related to nuclear weapons and will not shape Iran's nuclear decisionmaking.
I think events will develop in a better direction. What we have right now helps nobody. The west hates us but is too weak and scared to attack us directly. So what we have are idiotic and hurtful sanctions against the people of Iran. Once Iran has teh bomb that changes. We become untouchable. We can force sanctions to end.
In your dreams
In your dreams
No, not in my dreams. In reality. UN says Iran only needs 4 months to produce 7000 kg of high enriched uranium. Iran already has the design of the bomb. The only hurdle is to get as much fissile material. Iran already is a para nuclear state.
Goodbye, I have wasted enough time listening to your ramblings
Goodbye, I have wasted enough time listening to your ramblings
You are old man. I hope you will still be alive when it happens.
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