Will Trump encourage the revival of Iran?

  • im not a very religious person, most in Iran are not very religious. Maybe 5 or 7%.


    Thats another misconception about Iran.


    Iran was never a colony. We demand respect. To be treated with respect and as equal. We are not a colony you can push around.


    We had a deal. We kept our side of the deal but got nothing in return.


    We want trade, good economy, new aircrafts and visa free travel and investments.



    And we have a right for nuclear power. We also want sell our oil and that provocations like with our oil tanker stops.

  • You are wrong.. Look at the history. EU was created after the falling of Hitler and the occupation of Germany from the USA force.. SO what do you think was their next move ?! What is UN ?! You really don't think celar. Do you think that Germany likes that there are too many escapers in their own country and many many other not right thinks. Was it not weird when Angela The Cancler of Germany take decisions that ware connected with the war created from the USA in reality in Iran and Iraqw etc ?!


    I think that the UE was a USA s touch and reserve in case they need the EU under their feet... Look out the countries in the EU most of them ware forced to retrieve their weapons. Money making machine and in case of trouble, they will use us. What is happening now in the UK is that mainly the USA does not want their blood relations ( if you don't remember who created the USA mainly people from English countries ), so the USA doesn't want you to be involved in what is coming next... The EU will fall it was told long before it was created, wars, etc are happening as also that was told long before it happens. Dear Iranian you are also not aware of your own truth. Most of your people are told and learned that radical Islam is the truth.. But making someone to believe in your own believes with force .... is making tall the things senseless.... Why ?! Not because of your god, but the methods of implementing your faith.. You may be are normal Islam I have no clue, but most of your people on those lands are not in my opinion.... And this is killing the freedom of mind in humanity, not that we are free of choice but at least we can believe in what we see.. I speak for soulful believes etc. Most religions are used to control people, but yet there is still truth and there is still a god up there.... Anyway... I think you will all understand the truth soon, but it will be too late for our entire species... We are killing ourselves and our planet too. We already achieved soul-killing, next thins is the US and the planet.... And PS what a better way after the war to be close to Russia and learn all the intel fas ?! ;) It everything so obvious but the brainwashing is in its full power to blind us... They make us robots so we wont complain or do anything against the ''Big Bosses"

    What part of my statement is wrong ? , we were asked to seize the ship and did so legally under law , if it is innocent we will release it , not attach limpet mines and blow it up , we'll leave that to your country!

  • What part of my statement is wrong ? , we were asked to seize the ship and did so legally under law , if it is innocent we will release it , not attach limpet mines and blow it up , we'll leave that to your country!

    Was this an answer to me?


    You were asked to seize the ship? Does your country always follow orders of others?


    As for the mines and stuff...what makes you think Iran did it? Do you have prove for that?

  • You raise some interesting questions. My initial thoughts are that there are 4 components in Iran, in descending order of ruling seniority/rule/dominance:


    1 Theocratic rulers who are oppressive, rigid, medieval and have a mission for Islamic values, beliefs and lifestyle to achieve global ascendancy and replace Western democracy


    2 A government who are less oppressive, more worldly, more live & let live but subservient to (1)


    3 The majority of Iranian citizens some of whom deserve a better life, others who are grateful for small mercies but many who are weighed down by tribalism, intolerance and enmity to the West


    4 Women who deserve to be treated as equal rather than "respected" as chattel, who are allowed by men to show their faces in public and get a good education, as if all these things a great privilege and a testimony to men's so-called enlightened regard towards the opposite sex


    I developed these observations and thoughts the next day across several paragraphs but after no response I deleted what I'd written because it was too detailed for a forum and I realised in the end I was just writing to myself.


  • What did my government wrong? We did stick to the deal we had. It was broken by USA.

    In terms of the nuclear deal, that's correct and which is why as I've already stated in the thread where we've been talking about this subject (Will Trump encourage the revival of Iran?) I think Trump was wrong to break the deal.


    Nuclear must always be the top priority for obvious reasons and with a country awash with oil, there can only be one use for the Iranian regime wanting to go down the nuclear route.


    By the way, welcome to the site.:)

    If my post is in this colour, it is a moderator decision. Please abide by it.

  • I think most here have a totally wrong image about Iran.


    Iran is not the barbaric country like Saudi Arabia.


    Our women walk around like this:


    closeupmatchingbluescarves.jpg


    Im not very religious. People drink alcohol at house parties. The government looks away for most aspects. Men and women party together. Of course there are limits and thats how things are. Same in your own country. say something about Holocaust and they go nuts.


    I love my sport, love my car. I make parties and love to travel and hike. I love snowboarding.


    We have highest number of women in university. Actually more than men.


    You can see my pic on the side. Do you look like a hardcore religious?


    Like evry country, Iran is not perfect. But we are not the demons you make us look like.


    Iran never was a colony. We demand respect. You either talk with us on eyesight or we dont talk at all.


    We dont want break relations with the EU. We have a deal and its your chance to stick to that deal.


    We will not negotiate with USA. Their chance is over. We live in 2019 and they are not important enough anymore to achieve things unilateral.


    The UK fears us, their oil tanker stopped today and does not dare to cross infront iranian waters. It anchors infront Saudi coast.


    As soon our tanker is set free, the danger for british tankers will also be away and it can sail here.



  • Yeah only we are evil...


    That teh UK and otehr western countries support Terror groups and arm tyrannical regimes in Saudi Arabia? Thats ok.


    Iran saved Syria from IS, Al Nusra and other western backed terror organisation. Are you angry your coup did not work? That Assad is in power and your muppets failed?


    We cause death in Yemen? Do we send weapons to the Saudi regime or you?


    You fund a man who kills hundredthousands in yemen and cuts journalists in his own consulate with a bone saw.


    skynews-theresa-may-mohammad-bin-salman_4249326.jpg?20180307154547

  • Do you wear a head scarf? , or is that a "treat " solely reserved for the women you all "respect"?

  • Do you wear a head scarf? , or is that a "treat " solely reserved for the women you all "respect"?


    My mother wears no head scarf at home and my sisters dont wear as well. Outside they put a scarf losely around her head but hair visible.


    In Saudi Arabia...your best friend...that would be impossible. Women would get arrested there for walking around like they do in Iran.


    Also i have a question. Who do you mean by "you all". Do you not see me as individual or are iranians an anonymous mass for you without individuals?

  • Darioush,


    Apologies if you're getting a hard time here, but that's probably because members haven't worked out whether you are a genuine member or not. If you are a genuine member, you are most welcome here and please feel free to express any opinion you want on any subject you want.:):thumbup:

    If my post is in this colour, it is a moderator decision. Please abide by it.

  • My mother wears no head scarf at home and my sisters dont wear as well. Outside they put a scarf losely around her head but hair visible.


    In Saudi Arabia...your best friend...that would be impossible. Women would get arrested there for walking around like they do in Iran.


    Also i have a question. Who do you mean by "you all". Do you not see me as individual or are iranians an anonymous mass for you without individuals?

    I have no idea why you think I and others love Saudi Arabia , we are talking about your country , the Islamic republic of Iran , let's keep it there !

    Do women walk down the street with uncovered hair and short skirts ?, do they wear bikins or one piece swimsuits on the beach or in swimming pools?

    Do gays live unhindered and free from persecution?

    None of these are difficult questions and prove how unfair and devisive your country is to 50% of its population.

  • im not allowed to wear shorts.


    I do bodybuilding, but would not be allowed to wear too tight clothes on streets.


    But thats not all.


    We have parties, men and women together, house parties. We do hiking and meet.


    In many cases the government simply looks away.


    Women wear bikini and revealing clothes at closed parties.


    Gays have it difficult yes. Its banned but they can transform to be a women. Gender change is legal in iran.


    In many things Iran is lightyears ahead of other countries and in others not.


    I think many of you would be suprised

  • So your country is backwards after all , this is why the west dislikes Iran , your leaders are religious fanatics .

  • So your country is backwards after all , this is why the west dislikes Iran , your leaders are religious fanatics .


    Who decides whats backwards and what not? Your mistake is, that you believe you are the center of the universe. Your country is a monarchy. You fund a family with hundreds of millions each year, while large parts of your population are poor. That appears incredible backwards in our eyes.


    And who do you mean by the west? France has excellent relations to Iran. Germany has excellent relations to Iran. Italy and Spain have excellent relations with Iran.


    For you UK and USA you are the west?


    You know why Iran dislikes UK and USA? For destroying our democracy in 1953 (operation ajax). For installing a tyrannical monarch who murdered tenthousands of people. For supplying Saddam Huseein with even poison gas, killing 800.000 iranians in a 8 year long war. A war heavily supported by UK and USA. Nobody in Iran forgets that.


    Your country acted like a blood thirsty monster and you propably dont even know that. But dont expect others to forget what your country did.


    Times changed. UK is not a world power anymore. Just a medium power in Europe. Behind France and Germany. USA is not a world power anymore. Just one and China and Russia push it back more and more. The times where you could dictate others, destroy others and do such things are gone. I advise you to realize those new realities.


    Its your chance to view behind the anti iranian propaganda. Use it.

  • Please learn facts before writing rubbish , our monarchy has NO POLITICAL POWER , it has ceremonial usage and attracts millions of tourists here every year , nobody is poor as you describe it , our unemployment levels are extremely low and mainly only the useless or lazy are out of work.How come we have boats full of young Iranian men , obviiusly as women are second class citizens in Iran, trying to get into Europe and the UK ?

    If the European countries love Iran so much , where are your new aircraft and vehicles?

    As for the USA not being the world power , now you really are being silly .


  • In another story, the Iranians have said that the American bases and ships in the MIddle East are within range of their missiles...


    The situation certainly doesn't appear to be calming down.

    If my post is in this colour, it is a moderator decision. Please abide by it.

  • Please learn facts before writing rubbish , our monarchy has NO POLITICAL POWER , it has ceremonial usage and attracts millions of tourists here every year , nobody is poor as you describe it , our unemployment levels are extremely low and mainly only the useless or lazy are out of work.How come we have boats full of young Iranian men , obviiusly as women are second class citizens in Iran, trying to get into Europe and the UK ?

    If the European countries love Iran so much , where are your new aircraft and vehicles?

    As for the USA not being the world power , now you really are being silly .


    I advice you the same to learn facts.


    You have massive poverty. I visited London and Southampton. I saw misery there that i have never seen before in my life.


    Your unemployment is low? Many get exploited like slaves in low paid jobs.


    People are never useless.


    You have not boats young iranians. Most are afghan or iraqi who lie to your officials about their heritage.


    USA is not the single worldpower anymore. Its influence shrinks more and more. USA lost in Syria, lost in Libya.


    Airbus delivered several A320. As for vehicles, we get evry car we want. Why you think Streets in Tehran are full of Ferrari, Bentley or Lambo?


    I drive a Toyota. My father bought me last year. Im proud for my car :)


    2niazr4.jpg


    Where you think i get samsung phone, ipad and nike shoes from?


    We get evrything in Iran. Most is brought in via Azerbaijan but also Armenia and Iraq




    But i have a question for you. What you like about Iran? What do you want to know?

  • I like nothing about Iran , when you treat women and Gays the same as you , perhaps I will change my mind .

    Poverty in England?, rubbish , you are indeed a troll.

    I saw homeless people sleeping in subway. People who use drugs ect.


    So this accordingly to you dont exist


    rtx14kyy.jpg


    p19_poverty11.jpg


    according to the UN, poverty in UK is systematic and tragic


    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48354692


    Number of children in absolute poverty in UK hits all time high


    https://www.independent.co.uk/…nservatives-a8843381.html



    So im a troll to point up facts, while you just insult my country but obvioudly dont even know your own?


    While you have 3.7 million children in absolute poverty, you have a inbred queen pampered with millions. And dont denie she is inbred, she has children with her own cousin.

  • Oh dear, let's see do we have rough sleepers , yes , most are drug or alcohol dependents if not both , just like most civilised countries , as for poor , nobody needs to be poor in the UK , I'll leave it there, as for the Queen and her family , I do not care less about them but at least she doesn't issue execution orders like your illustrious leaders do .

  • Oh dear, let's see do we have rough sleepers , yes , most are drug or alcohol dependents if not both , just like most civilised countries , as for poor , nobody needs to be poor in the UK , I'll leave it there, as for the Queen and her family , I do not care less about them but at least she doesn't issue execution orders like your illustrious leaders do .


    You have 3.7 million children in absolute poverty according to the UNO. You obviously have not told them yet that they dont need to be poor.


    Who signs the execution orders for your soldiers when they bomb entire villages flat in Afghanistan?

  • I think we make ourselves look a bit silly and pompous (ie typically English!) by responding in such a defensive way to this young male Iranian's assertive self-regarding rants or criticisms of Britain or the West generally. It even makes us seem in denial of several unarguable realities. Our response is typical of what portrays Britain today as not as Great as it used to think it was.


    Also, I think this young male Iranian's criticisms form an agenda (perhaps politically initiated or encouraged by Iran) and therefore not at all amenable to debate.


    Because of our over-defensive response or arrogant dismissal of his assertions and criticisms, I fear he has made us look rather foolish. Let's face it, we in Britain live in a glass house. Sure, we have (1) well-defined laws, (2) a broad degree of freedom, (3) lots of social benefits for those in need and (4) a long established system of democracy.


    But .....


    1) Our law is slow and unwieldy. Free legal aid for ill-treated low-income citizens has been cut back to be almost non-existent. The personal-funded cost of seeking justice in court is un-affordable and will render a person bankrupt. Sometimes even if they win the length of time to take a matter to court is in itself almost criminal (justice delayed is justice denied). The crown prosecution service all too often ruins or blemishes the lives of innocent people who should never have been prosecuted, whilst failing those plaintiffs/victims who went to court to seek justice.


    2) Our freedoms are weird, often making life unendurable for those on the receiving end of freedom, eg noise, street violence, uncivilised and even violent neighbours; protest marches for anything and everything, clogging up traffic; cycle lanes that create traffic jams, etc); plus our senselessly restrictive Political Correctness that has lost its sense of proportion.


    3) Our social benefits system helps (illegal) immigrants, at the expense of an alarming number of UK-born citizens in a state of destitution having to sleep the street. Our National Health Service is like a starving sacred cow, a lottery of life, a massive incentive to try and stay healthy so as to avoid the risk of dying or being mistreated. This mania for social benefits of every possible kind is creating a nanny state, a nation of whingers, where young people insist they are deprived or oppressed about any old thing and hold a presumption of state-help rather than self-help.


    4) Our system of parliamentary democracy, which we are mindlessly proud of, is in reality so jam-packed with rules and procedures that it becomes difficult, time consuming and sometimes impossible to get our politicians - 650 self-serving or downright corrupt or muddle-headed elected representatives - to agree on anything. In theory, Parliament is "for the people"; in practice it has become congested with self-serving status-seeking mediocrities who can't succeed in a real world.


    I was naively big-headed in taking this young Iranian male's bragging criticisms as an invitation for debate that might produce a sincere exchange of viewpoints. I was searching for Iran's redeeming features, some evidence that Iran is not typically representative of the madhouse of the Middle East with its close-minded manic hatred of all Western values. I still believe those qualities exist beneath Iran's oppressive ruling theocracy. But not with this young male Iranian. Perhaps when he grows up.

  • 3 Iranian boats warned off by HMS Montrose in the Straits of Hormuz as the attempted to interfere with a British merchant ship , presumably they were only trying to say hello!


    No hello, we will take an oil tanker of you until ours is free.


    Its called an eye for an eye.


    It costs you millions now. You need to send an escort war ship for each british tanker, you must drive around iranian waters.


    As soon you release our ship, your wont be threatened anymore as well.


    Thats your main problem, that Iran never bows. We stand our ground and treat others that way, that they treat us.


    You want other nations in middle east act like slaves. Like Saudi Arabia, which does horrible things, but thats ok for you, since they kiss the floor infront you.

  • Its very telling when someone joins a forum and the only thread they make is an aggressively confrontational one without any attempt to introduce themselves whatsoever. :/

    Young boys in the park jumpers for goalpost that's what footballs all about isn't it.

  • Its very telling when someone joins a forum and the only thread they make is an aggressively confrontational one without any attempt to introduce themselves whatsoever. :/

    I was angry how UK treats my country. Our news are full with reports about our stolen Tanker. I googled uk politics forum and ended here and wanted tell our side point.


    If you want learn something about Iran, you are free to ask me. Or something about me.

  • There is a introductions section available so you could always do the polite thing and introduce yourself it would show that you are not just here antognise other users.

    Young boys in the park jumpers for goalpost that's what footballs all about isn't it.

  • There is a introductions section available so you could always do the polite thing and introduce yourself it would show that you are not just here antognise other users.

    I agree, that was not nice. I can do that. But i Hope you understand why so many iranians are angry.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member to leave a comment.