Theresa May tells EU leaders that everyone can stay here

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  • PM Theresa May tells EU leaders any EU citizen living in UK for five years will be given "settled EU status"

    May's dinner chat with EU

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    Er, hello....Isn't this meant to be negotiated? What about our people in the EU?


    What's the point of having negotiations if you back down on the first day on a key thing (dealing with exit deal ahead of future arrangements) and on the third day, you say that all their people can stay here without any agreement from them about our people over there?


    She is useless. She's got to go.

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  • Agree. Although I didn't like Thatcher, she would have had Merkel for a snack.

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  • Er, hello....Isn't this meant to be negotiated? What about our people in the EU?


    Reports say the deal will have to be reciprocal.


    The prime minister unveiled an offer at a Brussels summit, which would grant a new "UK settled status" to EU migrants who have lived in the UK for five years, allowing access to health, education and other benefits.

    "No one will face a cliff edge," Mrs May said.

    But any deal would depend on EU states offering the estimated 1.2 million UK citizens living there the same rights.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40363727


    What's annoying is that May offered a deal along these lines months ago, and Merkel refused to talk or even give the nod to the idea and saying talks had to wait until Article 50 was triggered. All Merkel needed to have done then was agree in principle to such a deal and all the worry for citizens on both sides could have been avoided.

  • It sums up the problem with the EU, Morgan, and their thinking. They stick to their rigid rules and eventually they'll burn by them too, which is why we need to get as far way from all that mes as quickly as possible.


    As you say, Merkel (who elected her EU boss??) decided that we couldn't hold preliminary talks until Article 50 was triggered. All this stuff could have been broadly sorted out months ago.


    By the way, the Guardian is reporting that May's offer was in response to a EU offer about UK citizens in Europe.

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  • The eejits voted for Merkel again recently, though. :(

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  • Efforts to reassure EU citizens in the UK about their future after Brexit are "a first step but not sufficient", a top EU official has said.




    Under plans announced by Theresa May, EU nationals living in the UK for five years would get "settled status", with access to health and other benefits.

    The PM said people deserved certainty but European Commission boss Jean-Claude Juncker said more was needed.


    EU Migrants offer not good enough

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    More! They want more. Perhaps we should rename this country Oliver Twist and while we're at it, just bend over and get buggered by them.


    I thought May's offer was over generous. If we can't even agree on this at this first stage, what hope is there for any kind of good deal? Perhaps we should just leave the EU now, although that would be cataclysmic for our business' and many jobs, but ultimately there may not be another option.

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  • That's what the Queen said in the halcyon days before the referendum: Why can't we just leave?" Bloody good question.


    The trouble with the EU is that it's an autocratic socialist empire that has tied everything and everyone up in its knots, psychological as well as legal. It might be a good idea to cut some of those unnecessary knots, but then, you'll get the media wailing and skirling over all the terrible peril. The people also can't expect there to be no difficulties after Brexit. Outside Eden, it's harsh and difficult, like it was in the land of Nodd for Cain, but hey, Cain survived and became independent whereas those who fell on their knees were manacled to guilt and obedience forever. The British just need to be brave enough to take the road of Cain. At the very least.

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  • That'a bit unfair Horizon.............May apparently made it quite clear that she was prepared to enact her proposal unilaterally - to speed up any agreement on the residency status of but EU citizens and UK citizens post Brexit......she did however make it clear that this offer was conditional upon this becoming a reciprocal agreement.......and the offer would indeed be withdrawn if reciprocity was not forthcoming....It could well be disastrous if May went before Brexit was concluded......especially if Hammond took the reins......