General Election December 12th 2019. Poll.

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  • You're wrong. The Brexit Party have not produced a 'manifesto' as they are not worth the paper they are printed on. The Brexit Party have produced a 'contract', and it is excellent.


    You can read it, or download it, here:

    The Brexit Party Contract

    You can only enter into a contract if you have the means to fulfil your part. easy to do if you have np chance of so doing

    At least a manifesto is a statement of intent, if you have no intent then no manifesto

    But this is typical of snake oil salesmen like Farage

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  • At least a manifesto is a statement of intent, if you have no intent then no manifesto

    Which is then thoroughly ignored? Statement of intent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

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  • The definition of a contract is an agreement of the meeting of minds which can be enforced by the courts.

    Very clever of Farage because it is so bizarre it can not possibly be understood or compared to anything else.

    A manifesto is not enforceable. No party is obliged to carry out its manifesto pledges if elected to power.

    UKIP s manifesto was too strong ("right wing") the Torys could never work with UKIP. So Farage became the workable, shoehorn, the controllable opposition.

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

  • It makes no odds. Even if the Tories win the Remainers will be claiming they won by adding up all the votes bar the Brexit Party and UKIP.

    Yeah, Boris needs a higher percentage and not just for that reason... He may not be able to get Brexit through parliament with those numbers depending on how many seats in parliament that percentage gives.


    "Nigel Farage lashes out at Jacob Rees-Mogg's sister in bruising BBC interview with Andrew Neil - branding her a Tory stooge for quitting Brexit Party along with three other MEPS


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne…ndrew-Neil-interview.html


    Always shows his true colours when he's beaten. How anyone can be taken in by him escapes me, he's like a spoilt child

    Boris and Corbyn are no different.

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  • If you accept referendums and honour the principle purpose and stick by the result you do not have to consider personalities because the people have spoken. If the remoaners got behind the exit win, as they know they are obliged to do, then the politicians could not fuff us around.

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

  • Which is then thoroughly ignored? Statement of intent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

    As I said earlier - there is no requirement for a party gaining power to carry out its manifesto pledge - this has been set by case law.

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

  • Dirty stinking Brexit 4 jump ship. After people have sent in postal votes. These politicians do not give a damn. The lowest of the low.

    But, this was planned. The Establishment is the most powerful organisation of Earth. Do you think the British elite will allow socialist Corbyn to gain power???? Wake up and smell the coffee.

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

  • Dirty stinking Brexit 4 jump ship. After people have sent in postal votes. These politicians do not give a damn. The lowest of the low.

    But, this was planned. The Establishment is the most powerful organisation of Earth. Do you think the British elite will allow socialist Corbyn to gain power???? Wake up and smell the coffee.

    Do you really think that some mysterious "Establishment/aka British elite" will stop Corbyn?

    The British voters will do that although he has apparently indicated that he will nor resign as Leader if he loses this election, pushed and supported by his lefty union mates

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  • Do you really think that some mysterious "Establishment/aka British elite" will stop Corbyn?

    The British voters will do that although he has apparently indicated that he will nor resign as Leader if he loses this election, pushed and supported by his lefty union mates

    Yes. Why do you think the "antisemitism" is forced upon us every time there is mention of an election?? Not one bit of real evidence is shown. I dont like Corbyn.. I would never vote for him but I like the TRUTH and there is not one bit of truth, as evidence published to show Corbyn is an antisemitic.

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

  • Corbyn was hoisted with his own petard when he threw his support behind Hamas, hardly friends of Jews

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  • Defenders, including Jewish Voice for Labour, have cited his record of opposing and campaigning against racism and antisemitism,[421][422][423][424][425][426] and supporting Jewish communal initiatives.[427] He organised a demonstration against a 1970s National Front march through Wood Green; spoke on the 80th anniversary of the Battle of Cable Street, noting that his mother was a protester;[428] signed numerous Early Day Motions condemning antisemitism;[429] in 1987, campaigned to reverse Islington Council's decision to grant the planning application to destroy a Jewish cemetery;[430] and in 2010, called on the UK government to facilitate the settlement of Yemeni Jews in Britain.[427] He also took part in a ceremony in his Islington constituency to commemorate the original site of the North London Synagogue[427] and visited the Theresienstadt Ghetto, calling it a reminder of the dangers of far-right politics, antisemitism and racism.[431] In November 2019, John Bercow, the Jewish former Speaker of the House of Commons and Conservative MP, said that he had known Corbyn for 22 years, did not believe he was antisemitic and had never experienced antisemitism from a Labour Party member.[432] His defenders have criticised the tactics of opponents

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

  • Corbyn was hoisted with his own petard when he threw his support behind Hamas, hardly friends of Jews

    I throw my support behind British Police dealing with Radical Muslims ... does that mean I have to be a friend of Muslims? does this mean I hate all Muslims?

    I oppose LGBTQ parades with men dressed in scanty knickers and bras with penises stuck to their attire and humping police officers and others, the act of having sex, in a public street with children around ... does that mean I am an enemy of Gay people???

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

  • Looks like Channel 4 are in hot water:


    Channel 4 has been forced to offer a grovelling apology for fake smears that Boris Johnson made a racist comment on camera.

    Broadcasting bosses claimed the PM said “people of colour” had to be controlled when coming into Britain – but in fact he had said “people of talent”.


    Boris said: “I'm in favour of having people of talent come to this country but I think we should have it democratically controlled."

    But a clip of Mr Johnson making the comments at a rally in Kent – with false subtitles - was posted on the channel’s Twitter account and quickly attracted furious tweets bashing the Tory boss.

    They were already on thin ice regarding bias.

    History is much like an Endless Waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.

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  • The LibDems are also into fake news. They produced a leaflet quoting the Express as the source of a comment by Boris, but they only quoted part of the sentence which completely reversed it's meaning. There are rumours that the Express are taking action against them.

    Mark Twain — 'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

  • The Lib Dems want to reverse the meaning of the referendum result.

    I have never seen such a rotten perverted political party.

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

  • I throw my support behind British Police dealing with Radical Muslims ... does that mean I have to be a friend of Muslims? does this mean I hate all Muslims?

    I oppose LGBTQ parades with men dressed in scanty knickers and bras with penises stuck to their attire and humping police officers and others, the act of having sex, in a public street with children around ... does that mean I am an enemy of Gay people???

    I think you have answered your own quetion

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  • Looks like Channel 4 are in hot water:


    They were already on thin ice regarding bias.

    Our broadcasters are finished in their current state, but its as much to so with the streamers than their bias.

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  • What to do about media bias? Sounds like a good idea for a new thread :/

    I would say the BBC are under the cosh of public disapproval about as bad as it can get. Multi thousands every year stop paying the TV Licence Fee. I stopped many years ago.

    The BBC is despised by millions and yet it still gives off this arrogance and pride as if nothing is happening at all.

    All you get is ... "Its worth the £154 a year fee just for David Attenborough alone"!!! So there you have it... bias and lies dont seem to matter.

    when you see an Apple Tree why be surprised it grows Apples.

    People don't believe lies because they have to - they believe lies because they want to.

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