Did anyone watch Corbyn's Speech?

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  • I interrupted my gardening for this speech, I wish I had stayed in the sunshine...


    I think a lot of what he said will resonate with younger people who have no knowledge of Corbyn's background or the hard left. Corbyn spoke a lot about the Grenfell Tower disaster including reading a letter from one of the residents of the tower who foresaw such a disaster happening. Corbyn also battered big business' and their tax avoidance measures. All this stuff resonated with a lot of people, including me.


    Corbyn has in the past "sympathised" with the IRA and Hamas, to name just two terrorist groups. He wants rid of nuclear weapons (or did) I am sure cuddly Mr Putin would be happy with that. He is not a serious leader and I seem to recall saying on this site just as this place was starting, that Corbyn has zero chance of ever becoming PM. Well, he never got that message.


    Corbyn's rant and it was a rant, was a confident one. A bit like a pop star, if you stand up in front of adoring cheering crowds, that must do a lot to one's confidence, it certainly has for him. To use Corbyn's words, but in a different context, it is infectious.


    If the Conservatives play any more games, they could open the door to Corbyn, Mao supporting John McDonnell and the likes of Diane Abbott as home secretary. Are we that stupid?


    Did you see the speech, what did you think of it?

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  • I listened, that was nauseating enough, all we needed was a flock of doves and a herd of unicorns, it's amazing what spending other people's money will be expected to achieve, typical Labour, all the country needs is hundreds of billions of pounds of extra debt.

  • It was certainly La La Land time.


    With the debt we're already in, if Corbyn gets to power, it will destroy the country's finances for decades to come.

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  • I think most middle of the road parties are into appeasement and that is why they make ludicrous suggestions and get away with it, jump on passing bandwagons and milk stray cows. They have no actual policy and even if they cough one up, they allow anything their opposition says to cause them to fold and start grovelling.


    Corbyn isn't anything but a challenger to their collective lack of direction.


    This is why it doesn't surprise me that certain people are after trying to unseat May. They can feel the wobbles under the platform and they are afraid that all this nodding and smiling and vacuous pledging is going to collapse the whole shebang.


    Corbyn knows what he can make them do and so he's using the gullible youth and other fringe groups to get the job done. They will honour and worship him until he gets into power whereon he shall turn into their worst nightmare.


    It isn't as though this is the first time. Not so long ago Brown was promising to "build the Britain of your dreams". Free teeth and glasses for all, etc. he was green Mr Brown for an instant too, but we all know there is more to true greenness than mere lip service. One needs scientists to advise on this and as no one wants to study science anymore, Corbyn is presently like the wizard of Oz. Draw back the curtain and take off the glasses and it's the same old same old dragging itself up for another ghastly episode of the same fateful soap opera that is outdated socialism in the modern age.


    I would ask people not to be so stupid as to fall for it again, but if they haven't had the vaccination - they're going to get the disease and if they survive it, they will learn all about how dangerous icons can be and how empty promises are when they are being made to you with your money.

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  • I would ask people not to be so stupid as to fall for it again, but if they haven't had the vaccination - they're going to get the disease and if they survive it, they will learn all about how dangerous icons can be and how empty promises are when they are being made to you with your money.

    Unfortunately we have one and possibly two generations that have never experienced hard core socialism such as the late 70's when the country was bankrupted by Callaghan's Labour hand in hand with the militant unions that were on constant strike and "The sick man of Europe" had to go cap-in-hand to the IMF for a rescue loan. It took Thatcher to prise the dead hands of the unions off British companies, close the money pits like British steel and unproductive deep coal mines.


    If Corbyn's rabble get in there'll be a 1 year honeymoon with money spent on everything, all borrowed, 4 years of rampant inflation and unemployment, strikes, mortgage foreclosures, people dumped on the streets and nothing working. Then it'll need another Thatcher for ten or more years to get us back on an even keel.


    History has a habit of repeating the same mistakes as the collective memory is lost from the generation that survived it.

    History is much like an Endless Waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.

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  • There could be a perfect storm created by Corbyn's policies colliding with the world as it is today. The binmen strikes in Birmingham is a little taster of what could come, except once all the mess is sorted, the people don't go back to the pits or the modern pits, the call centres, as all the jobs would've been transferred over to AI systems.

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  • I'm afraid I can't watch Corbyn. I find him terrifying. His quiet, insincere tones and his divisive behaviour actually makes me nauseous. Literally. If he is on I have to mute the TV or quickly turn over. No other politician, other than McDonnell, has had such a detrimental effect on my wellbeing.


    For a politician who claims to be caring, tolerant and there for the benefit of everyone, he is deliberately pitting rich against poor, north against south and elderly against young. He makes Tory voters feel like the filthy unwashed and only cares about those employed in jobs with Unions, everyone else is not important. His agenda, his intentions and his policies are not only totally mortifying, they would plunge Britain into an existential crisis like never before.


    Theresa May aint perfect. She dithers, she swings like a pendulum, but her genuine priority is Britain, whether her methods are liked or not, at least she would ensure life would pretty much go on as it is now. She is the best we have at present and the longer she holds off Corbyn and his band of merry men, the better. I also saw Emily Thornberry for the first time since the election and was reminded just how thick she was. And, Diane Abbott? Best not say anything about her otherwise I'll be accused of being a racist, even though her many faults have nothing to do with her skin colour.

  • When Corbyn talks, he literally rants, spits out sentences and others like McDonnell or Barry Gardiner if they come under any kind of moderate questioning. get very aggressive, very quickly. I almost miss New Labour and the media managed robots of Blair's/Alastair Campbell's/Peter Mandelson's regime.


    I've never understood why "working" people can't see that Labour is only interested in unionised industries. How many times have you heard Labour talk about worker's rights in a call centre or office? Very little.


    We already have a Diane Abbott thread in the politics section, so I'll reserve all my comments about her, in there...;) As for Emily Thornberry, she is a strange bed fellow to Corbyn. A Blairite elitist who looks down on anyway who does a manual job or drive a white van.


    As for May, I didn't like her before and I still dislike her, but I agree, better her than Corbyn.

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