Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem Immigration Policy

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  • It's just amazing how out of touch Labour and Lib Dems are with the feeling of the people

    White lives matter

  • We need immigrants to fill the jobs that British people will not do, care workers, agricultural workers. and any menial work

    I think only the LibDems recognise that and along with their Remain policy they get my vote

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  • LIB DEMS > "Tackle the rise in hate crimes by making them all aggravated offences, giving law enforcement the resources and training they need to identify and prevent them, and condemning inflammatory rhetoric – including anti-Semitism and Islamophobia – by those with public platforms"

    Fascism at work.

  • LIB DEMS > "Tackle the rise in hate crimes by making them all aggravated offences, giving law enforcement the resources and training they need to identify and prevent them, and condemning inflammatory rhetoric – including anti-Semitism and Islamophobia – by those with public platforms"

    Fascism at work.

    Islamophobia is an oxymoron. A phobia is an illogical fear. Having a fear of a religion that preaches violence and intolerance, accompanied by a stream of atrocities in the name of Allah, is hardly illogical.

    White lives matter

  • We need immigrants to fill the jobs that British people will not do, care workers, agricultural workers. and any menial work

    I think only the LibDems recognise that and along with their Remain policy they get my vote

    I live in an a county with high unemployment, but there are towns and areas full of east Europeans. This tells me that society is allowing people to live off of benefits whilst East Europeans are filling the unskilled jobs. If we force people to get up off of their ar5e5 and go to work, then perhaps we won't need the mass immigration you want.. Let's not forget, there is meant to be a housing crisis, and the people you are so desperate to move here, have to live somewhere. They also have to use services such as the NHS and transport. We can't cope with the people we have, let alone more.


    Regards Brexit, I thought we voted OUT, or do you not respect democracy ?

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  • I live in an a county with high unemployment, but there are towns and areas full of east Europeans. This tells me that society is allowing people to live off of benefits whilst East Europeans are filling the unskilled jobs. If we force people to get up off of their ar5e5 and go to work, then perhaps we won't need the mass immigration you want.. Let's not forget, there is meant to be a housing crisis, and the people you are so desperate to move here, have to live somewhere. They also have to use services such as the NHS and transport. We can't cope with the people we have, let alone more.


    Regards Brexit, I thought we voted OUT, or do you not respect democracy ?

    I do indeed respect democracy, we voted in 1977 to remain. Is that not democracy?

    The results of the recent elections showed great support for the LibDems and their Remain policy

    If you think that the laws on benefit, health, and housing need to be tightened up you would e very lucky to find politicians prepared to take that on. No doubt lawyers would have a field day

    It was suggested to Mrs Thatcher that she should tighten them up, her reply was it would be political suicide

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  • I do indeed respect democracy, we voted in 1977 to remain. Is that not democracy?

    The results of the recent elections showed great support for the LibDems and their Remain policy

    If you think that the laws on benefit, health, and housing need to be tightened up you would e very lucky to find politicians prepared to take that on. No doubt lawyers would have a field day

    It was suggested to Mrs Thatcher that she should tighten them up, her reply was it would be political suicide

    You know as well as I do we voted in 1977 for a trading policy called the common market. We didn't vote for freedom of movement, and the right for Europe to make our laws.


    To be fair the Tories have tightened up a little on the benefit system, albeit not enough. Your right that to tighten up more may lose them so votes, and that's why I propose that anyone with out or job, excluding people who are retired, don't get a vote. If people don't put in, they don't have the right to have a say.

    White lives matter

  • You know as well as I do we voted in 1977 for a trading policy called the common market. We didn't vote for freedom of movement, and the right for Europe to make our laws.


    To be fair the Tories have tightened up a little on the benefit system, albeit not enough. Your right that to tighten up more may lose them so votes, and that's why I propose that anyone with out or job, excluding people who are retired, don't get a vote. If people don't put in, they don't have the right to have a say.

    Ted Heath made it very clear that the aim was to unite Europe and stop any chance of more wars. It worked

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  • Ted Heath made it very clear that the aim was to unite Europe and stop any chance of more wars. It worked

    Look, it's in the past, we voted out, just accept it. If we had of voted to remain the leavers would have accepted it and just moved on, why can't you?


    The country is full to the brim, having freedom of movement was destroying our culture, holding back wages, and allowing companies to stop training people. We are one of a few countries in the EU that are a net contributor. That's like having a bank account where you get back 95p for every pound you invest. Yes, the trading policy is convenient, but there is no reason we can't have that without all the other crap that has to go with it. Anyway, that's all in the past now. It's likely Conservative will have a comfortable majority, and we will be out within a few months. We can then all celebrate our Independence and start building for a better future

    White lives matter

  • Islamophobia is an oxymoron. A phobia is an illogical fear. Having a fear of a religion that preaches violence and intolerance, accompanied by a stream of atrocities in the name of Allah, is hardly illogical.

    Absolutely correct. The leftie postmodernists have hijacked language and impart their own moronic discernment upon the rest of us.

  • Look, it's in the past, we voted out, just accept it. If we had of voted to remain the leavers would have accepted it and just moved on, why can't you?


    The country is full to the brim, having freedom of movement was destroying our culture, holding back wages, and allowing companies to stop training people. We are one of a few countries in the EU that are a net contributor. That's like having a bank account where you get back 95p for every pound you invest. Yes, the trading policy is convenient, but there is no reason we can't have that without all the other crap that has to go with it. Anyway, that's all in the past now. It's likely Conservative will have a comfortable majority, and we will be out within a few months. We can then all celebrate our Independence and start building for a better future

    Yet again I fully agree with you. It is contemptuous to try to circumvent the referendum decision. This is the big lie. I voted leave, I did NOT expect to win, which is an indicator the remainers never expected to lose. They did lose. If they won I would never seek a second referendum because the referendum choice was clear and fair.

  • Look, it's in the past, we voted out, just accept it. If we had of voted to remain the leavers would have accepted it and just moved on, why can't you?


    The country is full to the brim, having freedom of movement was destroying our culture, holding back wages, and allowing companies to stop training people. We are one of a few countries in the EU that are a net contributor. That's like having a bank account where you get back 95p for every pound you invest. Yes, the trading policy is convenient, but there is no reason we can't have that without all the other crap that has to go with it. Anyway, that's all in the past now. It's likely Conservative will have a comfortable majority, and we will be out within a few months. We can then all celebrate our Independence and start building for a better future

    We are indeed one of the Countries who are net contributors, after Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium and France because we have a thriving economy thanks largely to our trade with the EU. All to be thrown away in the hope of trade elsewhere, largely the USA and whatever Trump demands

    I am sick of this "we are full to the brim", there are miles and miles of open land (92% is undeveloped), what we are short of is infrastructure to cope - houses, schools, health services, and so on. You cannot claim that immigrants are driving wages down, the E Europeans for instance who work the fields all manage to send some of their wages to the family back home

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  • Yet again I fully agree with you. It is contemptuous to try to circumvent the referendum decision. This is the big lie. I voted leave, I did NOT expect to win, which is an indicator the remainers never expected to lose. They did lose. If they won I would never seek a second referendum because the referendum choice was clear and fair.

    All the indications are that a significant number voted Leave because of immigration, and lies

    It is clear that if the vote was taken today it would be a very different result as more facts are known

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  • All the indications are that a significant number voted Leave because of immigration, and lies

    It is clear that if the vote was taken today it would be a very different result as more facts are known

    I have asked the remainers who luuuuvve freedom of movement how many they take in their home or do they live in a major city or large town with schools filling up having a direct impact upon the existing population/children being taught... they never answer. Never!!

  • I have asked the remainers who luuuuvve freedom of movement how many they take in their home or do they live in a major city or large town with schools filling up having a direct impact upon the existing population/children being taught... they never answer. Never!!

    I have taken one into my home, and married them :D

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  • It's clear we need some controlled immigration where specific skills are lacking in the UK and we also need a seasonal workers program for agricultural workers. What we don't need to to throw the doors wide open and let the whole world pour in. Our services and infrastructure are already at breaking point not to mention the cultural threat.

    History is much like an Endless Waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.

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  • It's clear we need some controlled immigration where specific skills are lacking in the UK and we also need a seasonal workers program for agricultural workers. What we don't need to to throw the doors wide open and let the whole world pour in. Our services and infrastructure are already at breaking point not to mention the cultural threat.

    I would add that there should be greater incentives for training those people already in the UK in any skills where there is a shortfall.

    Mark Twain — 'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

  • I would add that there should be greater incentives for training those people already in the UK in any skills where there is a shortfall.

    No matter how many incentives you offer British people do not want to work the fields, wipe residents bottoms in care situations. or generally do the dirty jobs

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  • No matter how many incentives you offer British people do not want to work the fields, wipe residents bottoms in care situations. or generally do the dirty jobs

    They maybe would, if they were paid 4-10 times what they could earn otherwise, as happens with many east Europeans.


    EDIT: I should add that many immigrants may start in that type of job in order to get residency in the UK, but like everyone else they move onto better jobs as soon as they can. Very few stay in those jobs.

    Mark Twain — 'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

  • I would add that there should be greater incentives for training those people already in the UK in any skills where there is a shortfall.

    Surely this is one case for equality - all people, whether legal immigrants or native residents should be afforded training. Illegal immigrants should be sent back home.

  • Surely this is one case for equality - all people, whether legal immigrants or native residents should be afforded training. Illegal immigrants should be sent back home.

    Agreed.

    Mark Twain — 'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

  • They maybe would, if they were paid 4-10 times what they could earn otherwise, as happens with many east Europeans.


    EDIT: I should add that many immigrants may start in that type of job in order to get residency in the UK, but like everyone else they move onto better jobs as soon as they can. Very few stay in those jobs.

    Freedom of movement is specifically designed for the purpose of cheap labour. The British, with trade unionism, would not accept the low pay for these so-called "mundane jobs" and rightly so.

    When Blair started as leader he could not pretend to be a "working class labour guy" and then confront the unions head on. So he encouraged free movement for cheap labour. This was very clever because it killed 2 birds with the one stone.

    (1) It weakened trade union power because a person from Latvia or North Africa.. who is paid £1 per week and comes to UK and is paid £7 per hour will never want trade union backing because he/she is more than happy. Thus, Blair breaks the unions by stealth and appears an OK guy.

    (2) Wages are kept low by the demand/vacancies filled by people who are willing to accept very low pay and have no idea of British culture as was.

  • We are indeed one of the Countries who are net contributors, after Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium and France because we have a thriving economy thanks largely to our trade with the EU. All to be thrown away in the hope of trade elsewhere, largely the USA and whatever Trump demands

    I am sick of this "we are full to the brim", there are miles and miles of open land (92% is undeveloped), what we are short of is infrastructure to cope - houses, schools, health services, and so on. You cannot claim that immigrants are driving wages down, the E Europeans for instance who work the fields all manage to send some of their wages to the family back home

    LOL, your tripping over yourself. Our thriving economy is down to a successful government, one you will no doubt not be voting for. It has absolutely nothing to do with being part of the EU.


    Yes 92% of the country hasn't been built on, but in comparative terms that is a lot. Do you not want forestry, open fields, farmland, and recreational space? Are you not interested in wildlife or the water table. More farm animals, more emissions etc etc. In real terms we are full to the brim. Fact, if we stopped all immigration tomorrow, it would take at least 20 years for the additional taxes from mass immigration to pay for the infrastructure we require. Populations need to grow slowly in order infrastructures can keep up. Again, not rocket science.


    Of course immigrants are driving wages down. If a polish builder is willing to work for half an English worker, no building company is going to be handing out rises. This isn't rocket science. You didn't read my previous post properly. We have thousands of unemployed lazy English people doing nothing, yet we have thousands of East Europeans working the fields. Do I have to spell out the answer? For most of our history we didn't have mass immigration and an open door policy, but potatoes got picked, and hotels had a work force. The difference was that Tony Blair hadn't introduced the right not to work. Perhaps a step backwards would be a step forwards !!

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  • I would add that there should be greater incentives for training those people already in the UK in any skills where there is a shortfall.

    Thank God, some sense spoken. Has it not occurred to anyone that taking doctors and nurses from other countries is theft. Their country of origin no doubt funded their education, and then we come along stole them. Due to mass and uncontrolled immigration the government accompanied by businesses haven't bothered training people. I have seen job adds for people earning the minimum wage, insisting on exact experience. Since mass immigration we have lost the ability to forward plan. As far as manual labour goes, schools have been guilty of telling kids they are a failure if they don't go to uni. There used to be what I call the law natural progression. The academic kids who went to uni, and had it paid for by the government, the less bright ones that took up trades, and the worker bees who worked in factories and shops. It all balanced out perfectly. Then we had mass immigration !!

    White lives matter

  • "EDIT: I should add that many immigrants may start in that type of job in order to get residency in the UK, but like everyone else they move onto better jobs as soon as they can. Very few stay in those jobs."


    This sounds like the classic crap out of Farage and the trade union movement

    If all these E European immigrants move on to better jobs how do you think that crops still get sown and picked, and bottoms in care homes get wiped?

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  • They are NOT EU people they come from North Africa. A person from Australia with the same monarch, armed forces control, union flag and history can NOT walk into the UK and stay.