Brexit and EU general chit chat

  • Majority of 607 after two recounts, roughly 22,000 voted foe each main party, Tories and Labour, 2000 for LimpDumbs.


    Constituency vote 60% Leave. It was Tory for decades.


    This one is a a sitting duck wide open marginal . And if Farages Brexit party stands they could mop it up.

  • In the article that Fidget linked to, it said that Farage will put up a candidate for the Peterborigh by-election. If his party wins that seat, that could give us a very important indication of how future elections will go.

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  • Plus shes now going to be hauled up before the Solicitors Regulation Authority for lying through her teeth, and hopefully they will order her struck off. Disgusting corrupt woman with no respect for the law, democracy or the people of Peterborough

  • Oh dear , just saw Marr ,only to see how he handled lefties and he upped his game , Umunna and Cable both ambushed with post referendum speeches in which they both said they did not agree with a second referendum , Umunna even said it would make anyone wanting it seem like they were the political elite , oh dear , oh dear , oh dear.

  • Not seen it yet, but will try to watch some time next week if I can. Sounds like it was fun.:)

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  • UK signs post-Brexit free trade deal with South Korea

    The UK and South Korea have signed an outline free trade agreement (FTA) that seeks to maintain existing trade arrangements post-Brexit.

    International Trade Secretary Liam Fox signed the deal with his South Korean counterpart Yoo Myung-hee in Seoul.

    The preliminary agreement marks the first post-Brexit trade deal the UK has secured in Asia.

    So, post Brexit, the world was going to come to a end and nobody else in the world would ever touch us with a barge pole again, at least according to the likes of Clegg, Osbourne and other die hard remainers.


    Clearly, South Korea thinks differently.:)

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  • Contrast and compare: Yesterday the whole of the BBC was awash with anti Brexit stories from farming to industry but today not a peep. Indeed the first mention of Brexit was 90 minutes into R4's output and that was a review of a newspaper story. Even the traditional 6:35 anti brexit slot was empty!!


    Now call me a conspiracy theorist (tin hats on) but I think something's been said. In fact I'd go as far as to say the riot act has been read to BBC executives over bias.

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  • Now call me a conspiracy theorist (tin hats on) but I think something's been said. In fact I'd go as far as to say the riot act has been read to BBC executives over bias.

    Yes, I noticed the BBC gave Lord Digby Jones a decent amount of time yesterday! Shock and horror, as he is an ardent Brexiteer.

  • Yes, I noticed the BBC gave Lord Digby Jones a decent amount of time yesterday! Shock and horror, as he is an ardent Brexiteer.

    Was that later in the day? I generally only have the Today programme on R4 'til 7 and then Breakfast on BBC1 'til 8:30. I don't bother with news programmes after that.

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  • In fact I'd go as far as to say the riot act has been read to BBC executives over bias.

    Hope so, they are a disgrace to the corporation they once were. Plus they became the voice of Labour. Evil to squeeze a licence fee out of an entire population only to openly support a political party and thrust its ideology at everyone who dissented. Their interviewers became rude, obnoxiously personal and smug.

    There, in a mauve light of drifted lupins,

    They hung in the cupped hands of mountains

    Made of tingling atoms.- Ted Hughes


  • Contrast and compare: Yesterday the whole of the BBC was awash with anti Brexit stories from farming to industry but today not a peep. Indeed the first mention of Brexit was 90 minutes into R4's output and that was a review of a newspaper story. Even the traditional 6:35 anti brexit slot was empty!!


    Now call me a conspiracy theorist (tin hats on) but I think something's been said. In fact I'd go as far as to say the riot act has been read to BBC executives over bias.

    I suppose the one benefit of my current situation is I can't follow day to day events, so I avoid most of the spin. I did read something about the beeb a couple of days ago, but its lodged in that mush ball of my head at the moment and can't recall what it was.


    I wouldn't be surprised at all if a warning shot has been fired towards the BBC.

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  • The big problem with brexit at the moment is that there is a plethora of no deal scenarios virtually all of which are worst case and these are being taken as gospel by far too many people.

    Worst case scenarios rarely happen because action is taken to stop them.

  • Worst case scenarios rarely happen because action is taken to stop them.

    This from my redtop today:


    Worth reading the rest of this piece on the link above.

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  • This from my redtop today:


    Worth reading the rest of this piece on the link above.

    Thanks for that and he should be in a position to know these things. Even if no preparations were done, there was a time when we did trade with the continent before EU rules, so I'm sure we can manage that again again.

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  • LONDON (Reuters) - A majority of Britons believe Prime Minister Boris Johnson must take Britain out of the European Union “by any means”, even if that involves suspending parliament, an opinion poll conducted for the Daily Telegraph said on Monday.


    Johnson has promised to lead Britain out of the EU on Oct. 31 regardless of whether he manages to secure an exit deal with Brussels, despite many in parliament being opposed to leaving without a deal.


    A ComRes opinion poll showed 54% of respondents said they agreed with the statement: “Boris (Johnson) needs to deliver Brexit by any means, including suspending parliament if necessary, in order to prevent MPs (Members of Parliament) from stopping it.”

    People want the politicians to get on and deliver the referendum result.

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  • Okay, so latest news is a spat inside Labour regarding a new referendum. Apparently there is a mad belief that only a second referendum will dissolve the blockage in the Brexit bowel. Plus they want one before a GE. :D Very subtle ^^


    There is always this problem. If the people don't vote politically correctly, they get another chance. If they do vote correctly no one ever wants a second referendum. Transparent doesn't begin to describe this!


    Still, if they would like to start splitting themselves up, go ahead. The more little puddles of discontent and angry wannabes over a larger, more robust vote to leave in the valid referendum, the better.

    There, in a mauve light of drifted lupins,

    They hung in the cupped hands of mountains

    Made of tingling atoms.- Ted Hughes


  • The Tory Party and Labour Party are both split over Brexit, why don't the moderate sections of both amalgamate and form a centrist party which would have a Commons majority

    A Hand Up Not A Hand Out

  • I think a common purpose political group is a great idea. It's all you really need when push comes to shove. There's too much special interest and not enough shared needs.

    There, in a mauve light of drifted lupins,

    They hung in the cupped hands of mountains

    Made of tingling atoms.- Ted Hughes


  • Serves the EU right. Corbyn has alienated just about everybody now.^^

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  • I have avoided posting on this subject, but can no longer restrain myself. The fact is the subject is both complex and simple, depending on where you sit. From where I sit it is relatively simple. The nation voted "LEAVE" depending whether you like it or not. They did NOT vote for a hard Brexit or a soft Brexit, and decided to leave this to the government. Unfortunately the self serving pigs who have absolutely no interest in democracy, would appear to remain, and my suspicions are they wish to remain for their own financial advantages. Very few Brexiteers were not aware there would be hardships in doing so, but believed for the long term future it would be best for the country. Uncontrolled immigration from third world eastern European countries needed controlling, as did obeying irrelevant and daft laws, and pumping billions of £s into struggling countries. I think the majority of us would prefer an agreement that would suit both the EU and the UK, however , as the EU is determined to make an example of us I am positive they are prepared to cut off their noses to spite their stupid faces. The daft thing is that the generation we are attempting to protect is the same generation who want to remain. Good old Boris is attempting to obey the will of the people, whilst the self serving pigs are determined to do their own thing. In short, what was a relatively straight forward thing to achieve has been made difficult by politicians and political parties who wish to feather their own nests.

    Don't make me angry

  • I have avoided posting on this subject, but can no longer restrain myself.

    Nice to see you back and please, do let rip!:)


    By the way, agree with everything you say.


    LW was saying in the other thread that people would be stupid if the wishes of result are ignored, but as you say its purely self interest.


    If you're rich and live in Central London and frequent lots of restaurants which are all staffed by Eastern Europeans and other foreigners, you're having a great time. If those workers were actually paid a decent wage, half of those restaurants would go bust, so the rich enjoy a very nice lifestyle on the backs of others.


    As for the young, they're young.:) I'm very pro EU in many ways, believe in the one world philosophy as the ultimate goal for the world etc etc but I'm also a realistic and all that's for the future, not now. That's why I voted leave and don't view the world through the same rose-tinted glasses that the young uns do.

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  • There has never been "one world" and there never will be. There are only multiplicities of diversity. It's how Nature operates in order to keep things viable. There can and should be cooperation among diversities, but trying to undiversify humanity is like trying to repack a product packed in Japan. It just won't go back in the box ^^

    There, in a mauve light of drifted lupins,

    They hung in the cupped hands of mountains

    Made of tingling atoms.- Ted Hughes


  • Boris is getting whacked by the media today. This time he is being drubbed by former student weedhead Cameron.

    There, in a mauve light of drifted lupins,

    They hung in the cupped hands of mountains

    Made of tingling atoms.- Ted Hughes


  • Boris is getting whacked by the media today. This time he is being drubbed by former student weedhead Cameron.

    Supporters of Johnson and Co who are trashing Cameron today should remember that he is the last Conservative to win an election for the past donkey's years

    I don't see any of them winning anything

    A Hand Up Not A Hand Out

  • There has never been "one world" and there never will be. There are only multiplicities of diversity. It's how Nature operates in order to keep things viable. There can and should be cooperation among diversities, but trying to undiversify humanity is like trying to repack a product packed in Japan. It just won't go back in the box ^^

    You have a exceptionally unique (and probably accurate) way of putting things.:thumbup:

    Boris is getting whacked by the media today. This time he is being drubbed by former student weedhead Cameron

    Yep. I'll post a link to a story right now, once I've actually read what Cameron's said.

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  • David Cameron: Johnson and Gove behaved 'appallingly'

    David Cameron has accused the current prime minister, Boris Johnson, and Michael Gove of behaving "appallingly" during the EU referendum campaign.

    Speaking to the Times ahead of the launch of his memoir, the former Tory PM attacked some colleagues who backed Leave for "trashing the government".

    Mr Cameron said the result in 2016 had left him "hugely depressed" and he knew "some people will never forgive me".

    He also said another referendum cannot be ruled out "because we're stuck".

    So, Cameron thinks his colleagues behaved badly in 2016, yet chooses to only speak about it now. When you've got a book to sell, a little controversy always helps.


    This is a total non-story.:rolleyes:

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