New Chinese virus spreads

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  • Could this be the new bird flu? It's already spread to other countries outside China.

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  • I don't think bird flu effect was as serious as the Asian flu of the 50s

    I actually caught that and was bed ridden for nearly a week with doctor visiting every day, they did in those days

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  • Could this be the new bird flu? It's already spread to other countries outside China.

    It could be. Let's hope spring arrives before it can take hold in the rest of the world, but I guess that only puts it off until next winter.


    Hopefully, Asian countries will start managing their animals better as a result of all this, to avoid these infections from starting in the first place. It's bad hygene that causes these diseases - they need to learn the lesson before anything worse is unleashed in the future.

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  • I don't think bird flu effect was as serious as the Asian flu of the 50s

    I actually caught that and was bed ridden for nearly a week with doctor visiting every day, they did in those days

    Let's hope this one isn't serious, Bryanluc.

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  • It could be. Let's hope spring arrives before it can take hold in the rest of the world, but I guess that only puts it off until next winter.


    Hopefully, Asian countries will start managing their animals better as a result of all this, to avoid these infections from starting in the first place. It's bad hygene that causes these diseases - they need to learn the lesson before anything worse is unleashed in the future.

    I agree their bad hygiene is the cause here, but lets worry about this virus first, before anything else.


    Hundreds of millions of Chinese are moving around as they celebrate the Chinese New Year spreading this everywhere. If it's already spread to other Asian countries, it can only be a matter of time before it spreads here.

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  • This confirmation of human to human infection means it's now a whole new ball game and has potential to spread like wildfire.

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  • America has had its first case, are we next?

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  • Your normal flu/cold like symptoms. Which begs the question, if loads of Chinese people coming off planes are coughing, do they all get stopped?

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  • Your normal flu/cold like symptoms. Which begs the question, if loads of Chinese people coming off planes are coughing, do they all get stopped?

    Or is it just bad colds

    I have people around here who have been off work for a couple of days with "pneumonia"

    You do not recover from pneumonia in a couple of days

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  • I wonder if the virus spreads here if the NHS could cope

    Last Friday I dropped a urine sample into my surgery for testing. Today the surgery phoned, "Nothing to worry about but a doctor would like to call you to discuss the result" "Ok, I'll be in all this afternoon"

    "Oh no, I want to make an appointment for him to call, would next Wednesday be convenient"

    This is what the NHS has come to

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  • Breaking:


    So they landed in London and have been who knows where and ended up in a Glasgow hospital.


    If they have the virus it'll be running rampant soon.


    Time to get those surgical masks on.=O

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  • I wonder if the virus spreads here if the NHS could cope

    Last Friday I dropped a urine sample into my surgery for testing. Today the surgery phoned, "Nothing to worry about but a doctor would like to call you to discuss the result" "Ok, I'll be in all this afternoon"

    "Oh no, I want to make an appointment for him to call, would next Wednesday be convenient"

    This is what the NHS has come to

    Yes, I'm afraid 'our precious NHS' really isn't up to it. I hear horror stories all the time from people with experience of using the service. I don't know why peoplerate it so highly.


    It is free, that's the only good thing I can say about it.


    Most of the doctors and consultants are excellent, but many nurses are lazy and spend too much time huddled in groups rather than tending to patients who need them, and the administration is appalling.


    Boris needs to sort it out. Let's have a Royal Commission and deal with these problems before the whole service collapses.

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  • We don't need the virus here. We've got the norovirus that has pretty well closed down our hospital.

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  • Is it any wonder weird diseases are found in China

    Warning - this video contains revolting images

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne…k-coronavirus-animal.html

    She's doing her Ozzie Osborne impression :D Thanks for the warning not that anything will ever bother me but credit where credit is due and I thought that was a very courteous thing to do. :thumbup:


    Time to get those surgical masks on.

    Thankfully many Asians, Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese etc do wear 3M masks over here all the time. It seems to be a common habit of theirs because of pollution. Don't leave home without their mask and mobile phone. I'm thinking I wouldn't mind catching a small bit of this flu so I can build up my bodies immunity to the next major outbreak of something nasty. I'm lucky I have good immune system anyway but it can't do any harm to prepare for whatever comes next. We need to build up resistance to these things.

  • Thankfully many Asians, Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese etc do wear 3M masks over here all the time. It seems to be a common habit of theirs because of pollution. Don't leave home without their mask and mobile phone. I'm thinking I wouldn't mind catching a small bit of this flu so I can build up my bodies immunity to the next major outbreak of something nasty. I'm lucky I have good immune system anyway but it can't do any harm to prepare for whatever comes next. We need to build up resistance to these things.

    On TV the population of Japan always seem to be wearing masks, must be a nice little earner for somebody

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  • We should all start wearing masks. The other benefit would be that facial recognition would not work. Give it a few decades and maybe people wont be able to leave home without an air supply and we might look like an astronaut. Our environment is becoming more and more hostile. Instead of putting money in a machine to pay for charging or parking a car, put money in a machine to refill oxygen tanks.

  • I've been boffing up on this in one of my professional journals (sorry, can't link to it because I have hard copy and in any case, if I put up the online version the paywall would stop you seeing the article)



    A cluster of pneumonia cases with unknown cause occurred in Wuhan in December. As of January 20, a total of 201 cases of this Coronavirus have been confirmed.


    A phylogenetic (don't ask) analysis has been conducted and through a combination of Sanger sequencing, Illumina sequencing and Nanopore sequencing, three distinct strains have been identified. The virus has been formally named novel coronavirus-infected pneumonia (NCIP). I'm sure the papers will come up with another name that trips off the tongue more easily.


    The origin of NCIP is still being investigated. Current evidence points to wild animals being sold illegally into the Huanan seafood market in China.

  • I'm sure the papers will come up with another name that trips off the tongue more easily.

    Woohoo flu?^^

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    This looks much more serious than the Chinese are admitting to.


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    Seven million people in Huanggang, which is 45 miles away, have been told not to leave after there were confirmed cases.

    Suspended transport services have been put into effect in the smaller cities of Chibi, Xiantao, Zhijiang, Qianjiang, Xianning, Huangshi and Enshi.

    In Zhijiang city, all public venues have been shut down except hospitals, supermarkets, farmers' market, gas stations and drug stores, Hubei Daily reported.

    Indoor entertainment venues in Enshi city have also been shut down, it said.

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    This looks much more serious than the Chinese are admitting to.

    Maybe this will get the Chinese to clean up their act. Let's hope they have not left it too late and that this virus can be contained. I am not optimistic...:rolleyes:

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  • "Coronavirus tests on 14 in UK all negative - chief medical officer "https://news.sky.com/story/governments-emergency-committee-called-to-discuss-coronavirus-11916445Given all the usual panic news at the moment I bet surgeries are under siege in the UK from patients with sore throats, a temperature, and cough

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  • "Coronavirus tests on 14 in UK all negative - chief medical officer "https://news.sky.com/story/governments-emergency-committee-called-to-discuss-coronavirus-11916445 Given all the usual panic news at the moment I bet surgeries are under siege in the UK from patients with sore throats, a temperature, and cough

    So many surgeries. So few doctors. So many hours to wait in our A&E hospitals.


    Our wonderful NHS.

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  • So many surgeries. So few doctors. So many hours to wait in our A&E hospitals.


    Our wonderful NHS.

    That's what ten years of Tory government will do . And Brexit isn't even here yet...!!!

  • That's what ten years of Tory government will do

    A government that has invested more in the NHS over the decade than Labour promised to. (So had it been a Labour administration the situation would have been even worse)


    The fact is that too many people make too many trivial demands on the NHS and that devalues the service for those that really need it.

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  • The fact is that too many people make too many trivial demands on the NHS and that devalues the service for those that really need it.

    We should start charging for GP visits, say £10 a time. That would eliminate all the OAPs clogging up the system for their aches and pains to get paracetamol and a social chat

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  • A government that has invested more in the NHS over the decade than Labour promised to. (So had it been a Labour administration the situation would have been even worse)


    The fact is that too many people make too many trivial demands on the NHS and that devalues the service for those that really need it.

    Simply throwing money at the problem isn't enough. Too much of the money put into the NHS is spent on bean counters and statistic gathering for facts and figures for God only knows what purpose. It sure as hell doesn't go towards improving the service. To get all the information necessary to improve the service, just ask the bloody doctors. They'll tell you without an army of bureaucrats number crunching all day.


    More doctors, nurses, hospitals and equipment. Better training. More paramedics, ambulance crews and OT facilities. Better diagnostic systems....... Shall I go on...?


    The tories have provided none of these things.

  • A government that has invested more in the NHS over the decade than Labour promised to. (So had it been a Labour administration the situation would have been even worse)


    The fact is that too many people make too many trivial demands on the NHS and that devalues the service for those that really need it.

    Quite right, Heero, and had the last Labour Government not run the economy into the ground, things would be looking a lot better now.


    The positive impact of a Conservative Government will only start to be felt from now, so by the next election, there will be a much improved perspective of the Conservatives than currently exists.

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