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  • Racism, now that's a strong word. I say it should not exist as a word. Why? The word, human beings, human kind, one kind. One kind that comes in various shades of colours, so what. It's impossible to be racist towards another human being the whole idea is insane. To be prejudice /dislike towards a culture or a religion is a whole different issue. My opinion. :)

  • Racism, now that's a strong word. I say it should not exist as a word. Why? The word, human beings, human kind, one kind. One kind that comes in various shades of colours, so what. It's impossible to be racist towards another human being the whole idea is insane. To be prejudice /dislike towards a culture or a religion is a whole different issue. My opinion. :)

    I see your point entirely. To have a strong dislike of a different culture, value set and way of life is quite understandable. Disliking somebody simply because they do not look like you is a strange behaviour that I have never understood.

  • Racism, now that's a strong word. I say it should not exist as a word. Why? The word, human beings, human kind, one kind. One kind that comes in various shades of colours, so what. It's impossible to be racist towards another human being the whole idea is insane. To be prejudice /dislike towards a culture or a religion is a whole different issue. My opinion. :)

    People hate other people and refuse to own their hatred. I dont look at a persons quality or character from their appearance, especially colour. I am not racist (I also agree racism does not exist) I can not understand the speech of some foreigners who work as Phone Operator sales -customer service reps..thats I a fact I also struggle to understand Geordies doing same job,it is near impossible to understand them.. that is a simple fact and not racist. But some leftie liberals will leap on that and call you a racist.

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  • Racism, now that's a strong word. I say it should not exist as a word. Why? The word, human beings, human kind, one kind. One kind that comes in various shades of colours, so what. It's impossible to be racist towards another human being the whole idea is insane. To be prejudice /dislike towards a culture or a religion is a whole different issue. My opinion. :)

    What you are saying is an ideal that is too far removed from reality. It is the holy grail of sociology.


    Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another and that an individual’s social and moral traits are predetermined by his race. That belief exists; so it is not impossible for one human being to be racist to another human being. It happens all the time. All throughout human history. Only now has it been at the forefront because victims have found the chance to push back.


    Having racist thoughts doesn’t make you racist outright. Thoughts can be random, passing, intrusive; but holding racist beliefs and then acting on them with malice and intent makes you racist.


    Good or bad, the modern day meaning of the term “race” in the context of racism transcends race itself. It now connotes and denotes culture, religion, traditions, mores. They’re all tangled up and interchangeable and you can’t extricate one from another when the subject is about race and racism.

  • Hence it is racist to state that all white people are racist just because they are white, but it happens all the time.

  • I think in my example belief and state are interchangeable.

    It's your sentence so you can tell me what its semantics are but I won't interchange the words. I'll re-jig the sentence instead such that:


    it is, superficially and by definition, racist to state your belief that white people are racist just because they are white.


    To me, however, depending on who is stating it and if you take a nuanced interpretation of it; the sentence becomes an anti-racist lament.

  • if you study posts from certain posters they show racism if you need examples - stated and underlying

    A Hand Up Not A Hand Out

  • I think most people are OK and tolerant when they see a level playing field. For example: I would love anyone on this forum to explain to me... (A) If they believe David Lammy MP is a racist and if he incites racial hatred? If they think he is NOT then why is that? If they think he is then why is it he has never been arrested or warned or had the cops knock on HIS door?

    (B) Can a Black person never be a racist - against whites?


    (C) Why/how is it possible to simply state - "I favour border control" and be subjected to being called a racist? When saying that is, by any rational deduction, not at all racist?

  • I think most people are OK and tolerant when they see a level playing field. For example: I would love anyone on this forum to explain to me... (A) If they believe David Lammy MP is a racist and if he incites racial hatred? If they think he is NOT then why is that? If they think he is then why is it he has never been arrested or warned or had the cops knock on HIS door?

    (B) Can a Black person never be a racist - against whites?


    (C) Why/how is it possible to simply state - "I favour border control" and be subjected to being called a racist? When saying that is, by any rational deduction, not at all racist?

    Is it fair to say to much of something is bad. In the case boarder control, every country has this policy. It is not a racist issue. Besides the point in my opinion I don't recognise the damn word.

  • It's your sentence so you can tell me what its semantics are but I won't interchange the words. I'll re-jig the sentence instead such that:


    it is, superficially and by definition, racist to state your belief that white people are racist just because they are white.


    To me, however, depending on who is stating it and if you take a nuanced interpretation of it; the sentence becomes an anti-racist lament.

    humans are of the same race. Therefore the word racist cannot be used to define a different version of a human being we are one of the same. Culture is perhaps a better example I don't like a culture or a religion etc etc. Perhaps racist is a more appropriate word.

  • humans are of the same race. Therefore the word racist cannot be used to define a different version of a human being we are one of the same. Culture is perhaps a better example I don't like a culture or a religion etc etc. Perhaps racist is a more appropriate word.

    Racism to me is simple

    It is commenting on another persons skin colour

    A Hand Up Not A Hand Out

  • I started a thread "are you a racist" very much the same thing. To be honest, I am pretty much fed up with the entire subject. Definition, a person who considers any race superior than another, or a person who considers a person of another colour or different physical persuasion inferior to their own. That's just stupid, of course there are races superior than others, and to think otherwise is just stupid.


    So let's take the literal definition out of it. So who is anyone to tell me who I can and can't dislike. If I choose to dislike people from France, Pakistan, Wales, or Canada, surely that is my choice. Big brother tells me I have to consider everyone equal (which they aren't) and not to say anything negative about anyone different to me. Well bollocks, regardless of what the politically correct snowflake liberal leftie twats say, I am going to continue liking and disliking who I choose. Rant over for now

    Don't make me angry

  • humans are of the same race. Therefore the word racist cannot be used to define a different version of a human being we are one of the same. Culture is perhaps a better example I don't like a culture or a religion etc etc. Perhaps racist is a more appropriate word.

    BIBU: Once again; what you are saying is the ideal. That's your ideal. That's my ideal. But the fact is, not everybody subscribes to that ideal.


    There are people who believe that mankind is the sum total of different races separated by the colour of skin with each race placed in a hierarchy. The pale skin is superior; the yellows and the brownies follow in superiority and the dark skin is just, tough-luck-bottom-feeder. That notion is absolutely disagreeable but it has to be recognised that these people exist. What do you call these people?

  • That really quite simple 'for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction' without like you can't have dislike and without dislike you can't have like. It is physically not possible to have one without the other. Only in a fantasy world.

  • I started a thread "are you a racist" very much the same thing. To be honest, I am pretty much fed up with the entire subject. Definition, a person who considers any race superior than another, or a person who considers a person of another colour or different physical persuasion inferior to their own. That's just stupid, of course there are races superior than others, and to think otherwise is just stupid.


    So let's take the literal definition out of it. So who is anyone to tell me who I can and can't dislike. If I choose to dislike people from France, Pakistan, Wales, or Canada, surely that is my choice. Big brother tells me I have to consider everyone equal (which they aren't) and not to say anything negative about anyone different to me. Well bollocks, regardless of what the politically correct snowflake liberal leftie twats say, I am going to continue liking and disliking who I choose. Rant over for now

    I totally agree.

    My concern is to do with that which is cranked up into the authority of law and rules which ust be obeyed under threat of going to jail or losing your job and often this happens by the leftei liberal getting it wrong - their being offended becomes the conduit for action with said action resulting in serious consequences out of proportion the alleged "offence".

    Example: It is absolutely, 100% perfectly - legally - lawfully acceptable to use the word - N---er (rhymes with trigger) when citing an historic actual occurrence.

    As in ... "On 25th July 1925 in Mississippi the KKK shouted death to the N----r" ... I am totally within my right and supported by law and convention to properly say and write the full word.

    But you may be surprised by the vast number of people - mostly liberal lefties, who will become filled with hate and threaten to report you if you say that word or write that word.

    Despite that fact they are in the wrong. Their ideological mindset will actually prevail because somehow the stigma overwhelms good intended people ho reuse to stand up to their moronic and wrong persuasion of their stance.

    This is why I am pragmatic and will call out any and all leftie liberal who plys their intolerance with their hate and personal attacks.

  • Why do you need to dislike anybody?

    I dislike many people but it is based on actual personal experience or personal evidenced awareness. I never hold a grudge.

    I dislike leftie liberal ideologues because their propensity for imbalance or rational thought and reasoning literally causes harm and they dont care who is harmed.

    I dislike the person who knowingly cons an old pensioner who lives alone because that swine would never confront a person who can hit back.

    I dislike people with little or no integrity such as a councillor or police officer et.al who takes an oath then puts two-fingers up while collecting their money.

    I despise Hillary Clinton and would raise a glass if she was executed after being sentenced to death. (The fair trial being my sense of easement)

    I despise liars when by lying they will see someone else get harmed, knowingly.

    I dislike politicians who say.. "let me make it absolutely clear" .. when in so doing they are fully aware it is a mind-game contempt of people and they go on to state lies and spin and bullshit.

    Making a mistake when of good intent is never a problem for me. No matter who it is or how much damage is caused.

  • BIBU: Once again; what you are saying is the ideal. That's your ideal. That's my ideal. But the fact is, not everybody subscribes to that ideal.


    There are people who believe that mankind is the sum total of different races separated by the colour of skin with each race placed in a hierarchy. The pale skin is superior; the yellows and the brownies follow in superiority and the dark skin is just, tough-luck-bottom-feeder. That notion is absolutely disagreeable but it has to be recognised that these people exist. What do you call these people?

    It's very simple when you think, just how many types of species of humans are there? This will help you determine the true fact. I rest my case. I call these people human beings with different cultures and different religious beliefs.

  • Example: It is absolutely, 100% perfectly - legally - lawfully acceptable to use the word - N---er (rhymes with trigger) when citing an historic actual occurrence.

    As in ... "On 25th July 1925 in Mississippi the KKK shouted death to the N----r" ... I am totally within my right and supported by law and convention to properly say and write the full word.

    Don't forget you can use it in gangsta rap if your a rapper as well. In that sense it's used as a term of endearment like friend but if your a White rapper you may get told off. IIRC I think Eminem got given a hard time for using it.

  • I started a thread "are you a racist" very much the same thing. To be honest, I am pretty much fed up with the entire subject. Definition, a person who considers any race superior than another, or a person who considers a person of another colour or different physical persuasion inferior to their own. That's just stupid, of course there are races superior than others, and to think otherwise is just stupid.


    So let's take the literal definition out of it. So who is anyone to tell me who I can and can't dislike. If I choose to dislike people from France, Pakistan, Wales, or Canada, surely that is my choice. Big brother tells me I have to consider everyone equal (which they aren't) and not to say anything negative about anyone different to me. Well bollocks, regardless of what the politically correct snowflake liberal leftie twats say, I am going to continue liking and disliking who I choose. Rant over for now

    Absolutely agree 100% and it is not racist to acknowledge the truth.

  • BIBU: Once again; what you are saying is the ideal. That's your ideal. That's my ideal. But the fact is, not everybody subscribes to that ideal.


    There are people who believe that mankind is the sum total of different races separated by the colour of skin with each race placed in a hierarchy. The pale skin is superior; the yellows and the brownies follow in superiority and the dark skin is just, tough-luck-bottom-feeder. That notion is absolutely disagreeable but it has to be recognised that these people exist. What do you call these people?

    There are high performing people of all races and bottom feeders of all races. It is looking at the overall advances made by different peoples of different geographical locations that shows the stark contrast between people of this world. And one of the easiest differentiators to spot is generally skin colour. This is then conflated with intelligence and potential and that is the basis of the racism argument as it spills over into the advanced world.