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  • This is ridiculous. In the last 12 months I have applied to over 1000 jobs. I have reworked my CV at least 15 times. I am trying to get a desk job or even just work in a call centre. Why has it become so hard to get a job.


    Don't give me that "it's hard at the moment". It's always been hard at the moment. I've been trying to get out of my situation for years and everyone always says tough bananas. Companies always get to be as picky as they like. In my lifetime I have made 5 digits. Money? No, number of APPLICATIONS.


    Sorry for the rant. I'm just so unbelievably fed up with looking for work and would do anything for a job.

  • Nice to meet you

    Sorry you've had no luck job hunting, I'm sure you've tried everything we could suggest but have you thought of volunteering to help you on your way?

    Good lluck

  • Nice to meet you

    Sorry you've had no luck job hunting, I'm sure you've tried everything we could suggest but have you thought of volunteering to help you on your way?

    Good lluck

    Hi.. haven't really bothered. Used to do a lot of volunteering back in the day, never helped. I don't think companies care either way. I don't want to volunteer either, I just want a job..

  • If you can drive, there's lot of jobs in the courier sector at the moment, not a desk job, but a job none the less.

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  • This is ridiculous. In the last 12 months I have applied to over 1000 jobs. I have reworked my CV at least 15 times. I am trying to get a desk job or even just work in a call centre. Why has it become so hard to get a job.


    Don't give me that "it's hard at the moment". It's always been hard at the moment. I've been trying to get out of my situation for years and everyone always says tough bananas. Companies always get to be as picky as they like. In my lifetime I have made 5 digits. Money? No, number of APPLICATIONS.


    Sorry for the rant. I'm just so unbelievably fed up with looking for work and would do anything for a job.

    Up until the age of 48 I was senior retailer. For reasons I won't bore you with my career went tits upwards. and I left my job. I wanted to use some of skills, but not in retail, ie office work. Three months down the line and I couldn't get an interview. I then went down the line of applying for retail again, at a similar level I was at, again no replies. In the end I lashed out and got an HGV license, and that's what I did for the last ten years before retiring at 57. Back to your question, "why can't I get a job", well I don't know your age, but I am guessing that could well be it. Part of my last job was to visit offices and collect confidential waste, and believe me, offices are very young places. Age discrimination isn't meant to exist, but it does, and big time. If you can drive, there is always work, so perhaps that's the answer

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  • This is ridiculous. In the last 12 months I have applied to over 1000 jobs. I have reworked my CV at least 15 times. I am trying to get a desk job or even just work in a call centre. Why has it become so hard to get a job.


    Don't give me that "it's hard at the moment". It's always been hard at the moment. I've been trying to get out of my situation for years and everyone always says tough bananas. Companies always get to be as picky as they like. In my lifetime I have made 5 digits. Money? No, number of APPLICATIONS.


    Sorry for the rant. I'm just so unbelievably fed up with looking for work and would do anything for a job.

    Sorry to pry but what age group are you, gender and ethnicity and qualification level? Do you have any professional memberships? Are you disabled, gay, trans etc. What sector do you specialise in? Are you getting interviews? Do you drive? Are you prepared to travel?


    Without this info it is difficult to ascertain where the problem may be?


    It sounds like something is not working from what you say but details are needed.

  • Volunteering is the new workplace. We are all expected to work for free now. Even those kind of jobs are getting picky in who they employ. You need qualifications to volunteer these days. There's massive changes in the structure of work now. More job shares, and more part time, zero hours or self employed work. Even many driving jobs now require you to have your own vehicle and insurance. Then there's automation so less employees required. COVID is just adding to the problems that where already in place. The next thing will be paying for your employers company business premises as you work from home. Self employment and entrepreneurial work is on the increase. Drug dealing? No seriously though...it's shit out there and the older one gets the more difficult it gets.


    It helps if you speak another language. I also think it's harder now that most job hunting has to be done via websites or through agencies. Then there's the issues of automated systems in place that decide what applications get passed through so you have to think like a computer when writing a CV. The majority of them don't even get seen by a human and there are 1000's of them being siphoned off every day. There's loads of unemployed applying because they are required to apply for so many jobs a week even though they are not qualified and have no chance or interest in the job. One may even live the other side of the country but it's still considered an application so one receives full benefits. The problem is they block and overload these systems for the genuine applicants. The whole process of finding a job and applying for them is a complete clusterfuck.


    Ironically the one area of employment that is on the increase is job agencies or job seeking websites. But the job is not so much about finding work for others and more about acquiring personal details that can be sold or using your services as advertising space, sponsored ad's etc which leads back to the difficulties of job hunting online. It's a vicious circle but there's money in data. There will even be people paid to scrape data from places like this forum until they are eventually made redundant to the companies own automated bots or piggyback off google.


    And as Louis Armstrong once said 'what a wonderful world it will be'. :rolleyes:

  • Up until the age of 48 I was senior retailer. For reasons I won't bore you with my career went tits upwards. and I left my job. I wanted to use some of skills, but not in retail, ie office work. Three months down the line and I couldn't get an interview. I then went down the line of applying for retail again, at a similar level I was at, again no replies. In the end I lashed out and got an HGV license, and that's what I did for the last ten years before retiring at 57. Back to your question, "why can't I get a job", well I don't know your age, but I am guessing that could well be it. Part of my last job was to visit offices and collect confidential waste, and believe me, offices are very young places. Age discrimination isn't meant to exist, but it does, and big time. If you can drive, there is always work, so perhaps that's the answer

    Thank you for sharing your story. I'm relatively young (early 30's) and appreciate your thoughts, don't agree that age plays a significant factor in recruitment though. My experience is that call centres, ops, heavy-pressure offices are well populated with the school leavers, true, but those individuals tend to have a stronger turnover than older staff. I am no spring chicken to hard work or difficult environments, the companies on my CV alone spell this out quite clearly. Well done at retiring at 57 after being a lorry driver. Doubtful most of us will make that!


    Volunteering is the new workplace. We are all expected to work for free now.

    Bollocks to that. I am not working for free anymore. You've got to prove yourself to the charity, fill in application forms, attend interviews, etc. As a teen I did the whole working for free and couldn't land a job after college. My passion would be helping homeless people, was homeless myself as a youth, depended on food parcels and saw firsthand how hard homelessness is, except you've got to have an NVQ to even make food and climb through a load of crap now just to even try to be a volunteer.

    Sorry to pry but what age group are you, gender and ethnicity and qualification level? Do you have any professional memberships? Are you disabled, gay, trans etc. What sector do you specialise in? Are you getting interviews? Do you drive? Are you prepared to travel?

    Early 30's, male, white British, degree level, no memberships, straight as an arrow, FM/operations/admin, 2-3% interview success rate, can't afford personal transport, trying to relocate to the midlands where property is cheaper.

  • Early 30's, male, white British, degree level, no memberships, straight as an arrow, FM/operations/admin, 2-3% interview success rate, can't afford personal transport, trying to relocate to the midlands where property is cheaper.

    So when you say FM/Operations are you talking Construction, Civils, Process or Manufacturing? I take it that the fm/ops infers that you would normally be based on a permanent site or single location?

  • If the job situation is bad just now wait until the furlough scheme stops at the end of the year

    And then there will be the Brexit effect .........................................

  • Thank you for sharing your story. I'm relatively young (early 30's) and appreciate your thoughts, don't agree that age plays a significant factor in recruitment though. My experience is that call centres, ops, heavy-pressure offices are well populated with the school leavers, true, but those individuals tend to have a stronger turnover than older staff. I am no spring chicken to hard work or difficult environments, the companies on my CV alone spell this out quite clearly. Well done at retiring at 57 after being a lorry driver. Doubtful most of us will make that!

    Age does indeed make a difference, but not in your case. Get the other side of fifty, and in some industries 45, then your in trouble. I used to spend a large amount of time interviewing people for senior positions, and if I were to meet you face to face could possibly give you some helpful tips, but that isn't going to happen. Do you get to the interview stage, or are you rejected prior? These days companies are very experience specific, or failing that they pay minimum wage. When I left school there were signs all over the place reading "experience not necessary, as training will be given", you don't see that any more. When we opened the doors to European labour, all of a sudden companies realised they no longer had to train people, and as an added bonus they could pay less as well. Strangely enough the generation who suffer the most because of the EU freedom of movement policy, are the generation who wanted to remain. That's always confused me.

    White lives matter

  • Johnson is about to announce a major road, hospital, school, prison building programme. I can't see all those who are going to lose their hospitality jobs navvying on building sites. They'll probably have to bring in EU labour

    In my early 50s I was made redundant from a senior management position. I knew that such positions were as rare as hens teeth here so it was down to research as to what work was available here, or move which was not really an option.

    Plenty of social care vacancies so I applied and an agency took me on and trained me. Despite a reduced income but sufficient for my needs I loved it and though I say it myself I was very good at it

  • Johnson is about to announce a major road, hospital, school, prison building programme. I can't see all those who are going to lose their hospitality jobs navvying on building sites. They'll probably have to bring in EU labour

    In my early 50s I was made redundant from a senior management position. I knew that such positions were as rare as hens teeth here so it was down to research as to what work was available here, or move which was not really an option.

    Plenty of social care vacancies so I applied and an agency took me on and trained me. Despite a reduced income but sufficient for my needs I loved it and though I say it myself I was very good at it

    Well done, I think I would hate it, but that's irrelevant

    White lives matter

  • Johnson is about to announce a major road, hospital, school, prison building programme. I can't see all those who are going to lose their hospitality jobs navvying on building sites. They'll probably have to bring in EU labour

    In my early 50s I was made redundant from a senior management position. I knew that such positions were as rare as hens teeth here so it was down to research as to what work was available here, or move which was not really an option.

    Plenty of social care vacancies so I applied and an agency took me on and trained me. Despite a reduced income but sufficient for my needs I loved it and though I say it myself I was very good at it

    This explains a lot about some of your attitudes. Wiping arses is not everyone’s cup of tea but I admire that you chose to do it, many wouldn’t.

  • Some of us don't get a choice and as for getting paid,....

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  • The furlough scheme is coming to an end for most employees and some employers will have to start contributing. Johnson has ruled out extending the scheme but refuses to say how many will be unemployed.

    Surely it would he better to continue the furlough scheme, the unemployed will claim benefits which will cost just as much

  • The furlough scheme is coming to an end for most employees and some employers will have to start contributing. Johnson has ruled out extending the scheme but refuses to say how many will be unemployed.

    Surely it would he better to continue the furlough scheme, the unemployed will claim benefits which will cost just as much

    I am going to suggest that this ^^^^ is off topic

  • Thank you for sharing your story. I'm relatively young (early 30's) and appreciate your thoughts, don't agree that age plays a significant factor in recruitment though. My experience is that call centres, ops, heavy-pressure offices are well populated with the school leavers, true, but those individuals tend to have a stronger turnover than older staff. I am no spring chicken to hard work or difficult environments, the companies on my CV alone spell this out quite clearly. Well done at retiring at 57 after being a lorry driver. Doubtful most of us will make that!


    Bollocks to that. I am not working for free anymore. You've got to prove yourself to the charity, fill in application forms, attend interviews, etc. As a teen I did the whole working for free and couldn't land a job after college. My passion would be helping homeless people, was homeless myself as a youth, depended on food parcels and saw firsthand how hard homelessness is, except you've got to have an NVQ to even make food and climb through a load of crap now just to even try to be a volunteer.

    Early 30's, male, white British, degree level, no memberships, straight as an arrow, FM/operations/admin, 2-3% interview success rate, can't afford personal transport, trying to relocate to the midlands where property is cheaper.

    So talk us through your technique for a job application. Where do you look, how do you apply, how many applications per day, how good a fit do you think you are for the roles etc.


    You say you have applied for over 1000 jobs, I would suggest that for at least 950 of those applications you were wasting yours and your prospective employers time because you were not a good fit. Face it there will not be 1000 jobs out there for which your credentials are a good match if you have a specific skill set.


    Not trying to be negative but I am trying to stimulate conversation where you open up a bit so we can get a clue as to what is not working for you.

  • The furlough scheme is coming to an end for most employees and some employers will have to start contributing. Johnson has ruled out extending the scheme but refuses to say how many will be unemployed.

    Surely it would he better to continue the furlough scheme, the unemployed will claim benefits which will cost just as much

    There is an argument for this, but I am sure 80% of a persons wages must be more than job seekers allowance. As much as you like slagging off the government and spending all the tax payers money, our furlough scheme has been the most generous in the world, and that's a fact. Companies and people need to start getting back to normal, and the government may need to give them a nudge

    White lives matter

  • There is an argument for this, but I am sure 80% of a persons wages must be more than job seekers allowance. As much as you like slagging off the government and spending all the tax payers money, our furlough scheme has been the most generous in the world, and that's a fact. Companies and people need to start getting back to normal, and the government may need to give them a nudge

    Bryan’s mantra is if it is a Tory idea it is a bad idea.

  • As much as you like slagging off the government and spending all the tax payers money,

    I haven't criticised the government for the furlough scheme, only for their poor and too little too late action over the virus

    I believe they should continue the scheme, perhaps in a more selected way than a general way, to assist those who's jobs are at risk as employers run out of cash. A company's greatest asset is it's workforce

    I bet the costs of paying unemployment and other benefits to these people would be much the same as the furlough costs. Better to give them some hope

  • I haven't criticised the government for the furlough scheme, only for their poor and too little too late action over the virus

    I believe they should continue the scheme, perhaps in a more selected way than a general way, to assist those who's jobs are at risk as employers run out of cash. A company's greatest asset is it's workforce

    I bet the costs of paying unemployment and other benefits to these people would be much the same as the furlough costs. Better to give them some hope

    I disagree.. IMHO the furlough scheme should be terminated on the termination date. Employers will either need to work hard to revive their businesses and pay all their employees -OR- make redundancies so that employees can at least get a redundancy entitlement and then go on the the unemployed register to seek alternative employment while claiming their unemployment benefits.

  • I disagree.. IMHO the furlough scheme should be terminated on the termination date. Employers will either need to work hard to revive their businesses and pay all their employees -OR- make redundancies so that employees can at least get a redundancy entitlement and then go on the the unemployed register to seek alternative employment while claiming their unemployment benefits.

    What alternative employment do you propose for the millions employed in the hospitality industry?

  • At the rate we are going there will be loads of jobs in the crematoriums. Some of us would be happy burning bodies all day long. Now if only we could use the heat from all that to make some kind of eco friendly energy. :P


    It's all well and good these folk coming off furlough but then they will end up on JSA / ESA or whatever. This will then have a knock on effect that causes more expense in other areas like mental health, housing etc. It may even end up costing more than the furlough scheme itself in the long run. The problem is unemployment and businesses are going out of business because everything is changing and society needs to adapt to the changes. Jobs have been declining for years as automation takes over and population numbers increase. What's going to happen to all the delivery drivers when Amazon eventually move to automated vehicles and drones. The same thing will happen with supermarket delivery. The transport industry is the next thing to be fully automated.


    We need to work out how to keep many numbers of people that are unlucky enough to not have a job in some kind of condition where they can live comfortably, and it's not only the UK but a worldwide issue. There has already been test schemes for universal credit systems in some countries and what we need is better benefit type systems. Even the word benefit is a disgusting negative word. It's not a benefit it's a necessity and should labelled as it is, social security. It does not need to be a game of cat and mouse and made to feel socially unacceptable. It's is an alternative lifestyle that many are forced into because of the state of society and the way the human species has structured the economy, living and everything else.


    Work for humans is old school we will have tech and robots doing the work for us more and more now. That is the future so expect many unemployed to be the norm and the majority numbers. With COVID and everyone being in lockdown it's been a little taster of the future and the way things are naturally moving towards accept we will be allowed to go out and not held prisoners in our homes, but universal credit needs to be enough to sustain life. The first thing that should be done is take away the job seeking aspect of being on social security. There are no jobs so how can one search and apply for jobs that are not there without making pointless applications which turns into a job in itself unless you use an automated script to do it; a pointless job that leads nowhere accept to trap you in a system or as they hope for.....one gets frustrated, mentally ill and gives up claiming and becomes homeless, turn to crime or whatever. No longer their problem and gets passed on elsewhere.


    I would take a guess that we are going to end up with 5 million plus unemployed in this country easily and when you compare that to the 3 million back in Thatcher days it's at least on par with those conditions because of the population numbers. Folk are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think they are going back to their jobs after this and everything will be as it was. Do they honestly think that the companies and share holders will be willing to take a cut to support them. There's even talk of increasing prices of food, beer and everything else. Well how are the public going to pay for that if they are not working. Some will go back to work but the majority will be made unemployed. We could even be heading towards a new great depression, a new dark ages unless government and economists get a grip on things that does not involve greed and cutting corners. If we think crime is bad now and the feral roam the streets then wait until more numbers end up there.

  • I would take a guess that we are going to end up with 5 million plus unemployed

    I think that is optimistic

    We are a consumer and service economy and with a bit of luck they will not take too much effort to get up and running again assuming that the consumer has cash to spend. Thankfully there are a lot of pensioners and the "grey" pound is plentiful

  • What alternative employment do you propose for the millions employed in the hospitality industry?

    Digging up vegetables, and all those things you tell us our indigenous people hate, but East Europeans love. On the bright side, with mass unemployment looming at least many of the European workers will bugger off home

    White lives matter

  • Digging up vegetables, and all those things you tell us our indigenous people hate, but East Europeans love. On the bright side, with mass unemployment looming at least many of the European workers will bugger off home

    You can see Jonathon from reception digging spuds, I can't