Brexit's Going Really Well, Isn't It..?

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  • Of course you must follow their regulations.


    Otherwise you could import poison american GMO food, which is banned in the EU and then ship it via free trade into the EU.

  • Then we will acquire the equipment necessary. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.


    The EU isn’t the only place in the world, although to hear you EU lovers talk, you’d think the EU was the be all and end all.

    Its the biggest market in the world. You are an old man and soon dead. Why do you want ruin you british people future by letting them imprisoned in the shithole you imagine for them?

  • Its the biggest market in the world. You are an old man and soon dead. Why do you want ruin you british people future by letting them imprisoned in the shithole you imagine for them?

    You are hilarious Darioush. Your disparaging insults about the UK and about 50% of the population betray what you really are. You sound like some insignificant, sabre rattling despot. Why does any of this matter to you? Let’s face it you live in Iran, or so you claim, the global perception of Iran is that of a pariah state with horrific human rights violations. You have some nerve throwing insults around. You are a barbaric backward nation who have managed to regress in the last 40 years. Your regime would be better suited to the Middle Ages.

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • The french fishing industry wont die. They have the entire atlantic and can fish as much around your island as they want.

    They can do what they want subject to international law in international water. That’s not what we are discussing. But it will be costly and dangerous and eventually they will run into Irish fishing water causing more internal tension to the EU.


    You are deflecting because your argument is weak. Why not throw some more insults to cover your nonsense? That is your normal tactic. Better still debate the subject with some substance and stop acting like an obnoxious child.


    Don’t forget Darioush it is part of British culture to mercilessly take the piss out of well deserving idiots like you. You think your insults wound our pride but they are just funny. You sound like the comedy bad guy from a crap movie. To be honest it is difficult to take you seriously.

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • Of course you must follow their regulations.


    Otherwise you could import poison american GMO food, which is banned in the EU and then ship it via free trade into the EU.

    This is the nub of the problem. The Americans want a back door into EU markets and see Britain as their poodle in attaining that goal. They've been trying to do that for years, but previous governments resisted it before the Single Market and since then have been protected by said Single Market from further American overtures.


    The EU have been wise to these attempts by America for decades. American business exploiting the (so-called) "special relationship" was the principle reason why DeGaulle said "Non" to British membership of the (then) Common Market back in the 1960s. Britain had to wait until after DeGaulle died before they could apply again to join in 1973.


    Always........ ALWAYS.... remember this:


    The overriding principle to all EU objections in Brexit negotiations is their determination to protect the single market.

  • Meanwhile, back in the car crash of British politics, 70 trade associations have begged both parties to come to an agreement. This is likely to fall on deaf ears with both London and Brussels. In London it will be because the Tories don't care and in Brussels because the chaos in Britain is not their problem.


    Experts Claim A "Thin" EU Deal Will Cause Major Economic Upset



    Snip from article:


    Ben Fletcher, executive director of policy at Make UK, said even the best deal now on offer was “a long way from the kind of deal that was being discussed as a starting point during Theresa May’s discussions – which itself was a very long way away from the status quo”.


    “Across the big business sectors there is a real nervousness that too many firms think that the potential deal is actually largely the status quo – there is a dangerous underlying belief that ultimately, someone will emerge from a building in Brussels with a deal and things will carry on as normal. There are real fears that the hidden shock here is that the scale of change, from where we sit today to where we might sit even with a deal on 1 January, is pretty significant – and pretty scary.”


    Some in industry said they were reluctant to raise concerns about the potential deal because no deal was the immediate threat. Anand Menon, director of The UK in a Changing Europe, said: “One of the things the current furore over deal v no deal serves to disguise is the fact that even if there is a deal, it will be a relatively ‘thin’ one which will lead to potentially serious disruption and have a significant impact on the economy...................


    .............No deal remains a danger because talks have stalled over fishing rights in British waters and so-called level playing field (LPF) rules in relation to Britain’s future use of state aid. Industry sources said they expected shortages in supermarkets to force the UK back to the negotiating table in the event of no deal. Nick Macpherson, the Treasury’s top civil servant from 2005 to 2016, said the UK government would have little choice. “The deal on offer will cause economic damage since there will still be friction at the border which will discourage trade with our biggest market,” he said. “But no deal would do much more harm, in particular to manufacturing industries such as cars and chemicals and would make Britain’s return to the negotiating table at some point inevitable.”




    Boris Johnson may finally be able to get a "Fig Leaf" deal to cover his naked embarrassment, and it is certain that Brexiters would cheer it to the rooftops because it is a "deal" and to them it would justify everything.


    But it is clear that business does not believe anything that doesn't include full access to the Customs Union and Single Market is worth pursuing.


    Brexit isn't going very well, is it..?

  • Ben Fletcher....


    Well he would say that. I have mentioned before Jenny you will only ever hear your own voice in an echo chamber.


    The sensible businesses will prepare for no deal. This means preparing for import/export in the same way they would for dealing with countries that are not in the EU and generally complying with WTO regulations. A lot if businesses already do this because they reach beyond the EU already and beyond the handful of nations that the EU has a trade deal with.


    Businesses always throw up the “what do we prepare for” argument like there are any massive options between operating with or without a trade deal. At the end of the transition period we will have very few bespoke trade deals so will largely operate on WTO. So the answer is educate yourself on WTO. Why is that so difficult?


    This has been coming for 4 years Jenny. The need for the last minute panic is down to the likes of you, the remoaning Brexit deniers who have been trying to derail the whole process. Well now you can see what your Machiavellian plotting has caused as businesses delayed their preparation because they were run by remainers who wouldn’t get with the programme in the futile hope that it would all be called off. And in any case after Brexit whatever arrangements we currently have are going to be scuppered and replaced with something else anyway so really there is no excuse for this pathetic whining.

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

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    The french fishing industry wont die. They have the entire atlantic and can fish as much around your island as they want.

    If that’s the case, why are the French holding up the whole process? No matter how you might try to disguise the fact, the EU have plundered our fishing waters and are fearful of losing what will become our territorial waters.

  • They can do what they want subject to international law in international water. That’s not what we are discussing. But it will be costly and dangerous and eventually they will run into Irish fishing water causing more internal tension to the EU.


    You are deflecting because your argument is weak. Why not throw some more insults to cover your nonsense? That is your normal tactic. Better still debate the subject with some substance and stop acting like an obnoxious child.


    Don’t forget Darioush it is part of British culture to mercilessly take the piss out of well deserving idiots like you. You think your insults wound our pride but they are just funny. You sound like the comedy bad guy from a crap movie. To be honest it is difficult to take you seriously.



    Big words from americas poodle ?

  • Big words from americas poodle ?

    So you agree that your country is a pariah state with regressive, medieval attitudes?


    Interesting that you would let that slide.


    You have obviously reached the end of your book of insults.

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • So you agree that your country is a pariah state with regressive, medieval attitudes?


    Interesting that you would let that slide.


    You have obviously reached the end of your book of insults.

    In my country we dont cut peoples head off like in London few years ago.


    We also dont run children prostitution.networks backed by authorities like in Rottherham.


    So much about medieval.


    We are no pariah state. You make the mistake to see yourself as the world. Tell me what problems do we have with China? India? Japan? Entire Southeast Asia? Latin america? Zero.

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    In my country we dont cut peoples head off like in London few years ago.

    Yes, Iran has come a long way. Now Iran just hangs people by the neck from cranes. Much more sophisticated, I say.


    The British government does not murder its own citizens, or anyone else, for that matter.

  • Yes, Iran has come a long way. Now Iran just hangs people by the neck from cranes. Much more sophisticated, I say.


    The British government does not murder its own citizens, or anyone else, for that matter.

    Of course you do. You blow up entire Wedding parties in Iraq and Afghanistan and call it collateral damage

  • Government Internal Market Bill Suffers Crushing Defeat In House of Lords


    Peers have backed a "Regret" amendment which condemns parts of the Internal Market Bill, and is likely to set up a showdown between the Commons and the Upper Chamber. The vote was 395 to 169, a defeat for the government of 226.


    This is likely to result in a prolonged period of legislation tennis between the two houses with legislation flying backwards and forwards for a long time. Something we really don't need in a time of pandemic and economic crisis. But the Lords are right to vote as they have. This criminal act cannot be allowed to pass unchallenged.


    Jeeeezus.... can this Brexit fiasco get any worse..? I fear that it can because we have the worst government in this country's history.


    The government has made a pigs arse of this time and time again. Everything it has done has been either illegal, immoral or incompetent.


    As Lord Stevenson said after the vote: ‘When the history of these troubled months comes to be written it will not be kind to the current Prime Minister and his Cabinet.’

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    Peers have backed a "Regret" amendment which condemns parts of the Internal Market Bill, and is likely to set up a showdown between the Commons and the Upper Chamber. The vote was 395 to 169, a defeat for the government of 226.


    This is likely to result in a prolonged period of legislation tennis between the two houses with legislation flying backwards and forwards for a long time. Something we really don't need in a time of pandemic and economic crisis. But the Lords are right to vote as they have. This criminal act cannot be allowed to pass unchallenged.

    The Lords only have three opportunities to send a Bill back to the Commons, so it will be a very quick game of tennis. On the third occasion, the Commons can simply ignore it.

  • The Lords only have three opportunities to send a Bill back to the Commons, so it will be a very quick game of tennis. On the third occasion, the Commons can simply ignore it.

    Which of course, will reflect well on them won't it..? The criminal activity of this government will only be highlighted by their dismissive attitude to the democratic process.


    It's all grist to the mill.


    They're facing criminal charges in an international court over this brought by the European Union. Not so easy to ignore.


    And all of this is being played out in full view of an electorate that is becoming increasingly disillusioned with them with every lie, every abuse of power and every act of corruption that is being exposed day after day after day.


    Keep it up, I say.

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