I thought the NHS where abandoning the whole BMI nonsense. High carb diets are not good for weight loss. As someone that I class as semi-vegi, only ever eaten Chicken and the odd bacon butty for the last.....so long I can't remember. I have recently got into to eating liver and bacon. I listened to my body as it was crying out for Iron. I used to enjoy eating liver and bacon as a kid and I suddenly after all these years started craving it again.
B.M.I, really ?
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Humans are adapted to omnivorous consumption more by technical advancement rather than evolutionary process.
Humans have short, soft fingernails and small, dull canine teeth. all true carnivores have sharp claws and large canine teeth that are capable of tearing flesh without the help of tools (eg: knives and forks).
Real carnivores' jaws move only up and down, enabling them to tear chunks of flesh from their prey. Humans can move their jaws up and down AND from side to side, and we also have flat molars (which carnivores lack), allowing us to grind up fruit and vegetables with our back teeth as herbivores do.
(Quoting from hard copy publication now. Unable to find online). Dr Richard Leakey, a renowned anthropologist writes: "You can tear flesh by hand, but you can't tear hide by hand. Our anterior teeth are not suited for tearing flesh or hide. We don't........ have large canine teeth and we wouldn't have been able to deal with food sources that required those large canines."
Our digestive system doesn't like meat. Carnivores have short intestinal tracts that allow meat to pass quickly through their digestive system. Humans' intestinal tracts are much longer, like those of plant eaters. This gives the body more time to break down fibre and absorb the nutrients from plant based foods.
Raw meat may cause food poisoning in humans. True carnivores gulp down chunks of raw flesh, relying on strong stomach acids to break it down and kill the dangerous parasites and bacteria in meat that might otherwise sicken or kill them. Humans have much weaker stomach acids that are similar to those found in animals who digest pre-chewed fruits and vegetables. Without carnivorous stomach acids to kill the bacteria in raw meat, dining on uncooked animal flesh can give us food poisoning. The US Department of agriculture states that meat is a significant cause of foodborne illness. Every year in the USA alone, food poisoning sickens more than 48 million people and kills more than 3000. Because of this we must cook meat to make it easier to digest and destroy bacteria but there may be a link between cooking meat at high temperature and the development of colon cancer.
Meat can cause heart disease in humans. Carnivorous animals in the wild virtually never develop heart disease or suffer from strokes - ailments that humans can suffer an increased risk of developing due to consumption of saturated fat and cholesterol found in meat.
We may be getting too much protein. Humans get plenty of protein without paying special attention to what they eat. We're more likely to consume TOO MUCH protein, resulting in nutritional deficiencies or insufficient fibre. Eating too much protein may also increase the risk of developing heart disease and may worsen kidney function because the body can have trouble eliminating all the waste products of protein metabolism.
During our evolutionary history, we were largely vegetarian. Plant foods made up the bulk of our ancestors diet. The addition of modest amounts of meat to the early human diet came with the discovery of fire which, probably by trial and error, was found to lower the risk of being sickened or killed by parasites and bacteria in meat. This didn't turn our ancestors into carnivores but rather allowed humans to survive in areas and during periods in which plant foods were unavailable or scarce.
The invention of tools, and with it, weapons, enabled humans to hunt which overcame our physical deficiencies. Tools sutch as knives could cut meat into small amounts that would be easier to chew, swallow and digest.
Omnivorism is more of a cultural development than evolutionary process.
Your facts are indeed correct. Even as a life long vegetarian I concede we have evolved as a specie, and our tolerance of meat has probably changed. Our diets will change, and it is my belief civilised society will reduce the intake of meat, both for ethical and environmental reasons.
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Your facts are indeed correct. Even as a life long vegetarian I concede we have evolved as a specie, and our tolerance of meat has probably changed. Our diets will change, and it is my belief civilised society will reduce the intake of meat, both for ethical and environmental reasons.
My diet won’t change. Mind you, I only have a limited shelf life!
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My diet won’t change. Mind you, I only have a limited shelf life!
I don't expect or want it to. Our diets will change as generations and opinions advance. In the mean time, let's respect our fellow creatures
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I tried vegetarianism as a teenager with my bestie at school. She came from a Hindu family and her parents were both strict veggies, but had been living in Britain long enough to have become liberal enough not to enforce it on their children.
Sahana and I decided we would go vegetarian for a month. It was a part experiment, part social conscience. And we stuck to it assiduously.
It was good actually. My enjoyment of food improved. I could taste it better. I felt healthier. All sorts of bodily functions (no details. Female things) seemed to go smoother and were less stressful. Between us we both agreed that vegetarianism was a good thing. I don't know if we ever said we would stick to it when the month was up, but I have to confess that as soon as the 30th day ticked over, we looked at each other and said "Cheeseburger".
I respect vegetarians and fully endorse what they say about all the health benefits, but I can't do it myself. I LIKE meat, fish and other animal products and can now exercise moderation. I must say though, that as I'm getting older, I'm getting more selective and find myself choosing the veggie option more often than before.
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The thing is if everyone was to convert to vegetarianism there would be a whole industry that is geared to meat based food production that would go out of business putting an awful lot of people out of work, yes some of them could adapt but it would still mean a lot of people out of work.
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The thing is if everyone was to convert to vegetarianism there would be a whole industry that is geared to meat based food production that would go out of business putting an awful lot of people out of work, yes some of them could adapt but it would still mean a lot of people out of work.
It will happen, but very slowly. Meat production will slow down and related companies will down size and diverse.
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The thing is if everyone was to convert to vegetarianism there would be a whole industry that is geared to meat based food production that would go out of business putting an awful lot of people out of work, yes some of them could adapt but it would still mean a lot of people out of work.
If everybody turned vegan our landscape would change for ever. Pigs, sheep, deer, cattle, ETC. would become totally extinct. That would be a sad state of affairs.
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A lot of people enjoy eating meat including me, they enjoy the taste, texture etc, but are made to feel guilty about eating it, the way I see it is you pays your money and makes your choices, and as part of a varied diet eating a mixture of meat vegetables and fruit etc, there is nothing wrong with eating it, so people should be left alone to do what they want.
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Just had ranch steaks griddled medium rare. We like our red meat.
It's fine if people want to eat broccoli, bean sprouts and quinoa. ( )
Remember that red meat is not bad for you. Now green meat: That's bad for you.
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Just had ranch steaks griddled medium rare. We like our red meat.
It's fine if people want to eat broccoli, bean sprouts and quinoa. ( )
Remember that red meat is not bad for you. Now green meat: That's bad for you.
I guy I knew some time ago was a vegetarian. He always looked very pale. He was a sickly looking individual and I’m sure that was connected to his diet.
My only beef (pardon the pun) with meat eating is the suffering we put our animals through. But we have it within our power to legislate for minimum standards of farming animals and methods of slaughter. All of this should be carried out with huge compassion and caring for the animals. We don’t have to behave like savages.
Practices in slaughterhouses need to be reviewed forensically and all poor practices banned. I think that is what the vast majority of the public expect, but it isn’t happening.
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I think vegetarianism and veganism has gone about as far as it will go. Those who are attracted to the idea have, by and large, already converted.
I think the opposite!
There are big changes afoot and the world cannot be sustained as it is with the huge consumption of meat. One company I am invested in called Beyond Meat and there are others out there.
There are different routes this can go down from artificially grown meat in a lab grown from animal cells (no animal is ever killed to supply the meat, because they were never born to begin with) to pure meat free foods which just happen to look and taste like meat. But I reckon it will be a major "thing" to come. Major.
We may be getting too much protein. Humans get plenty of protein without paying special attention to what they eat. We're more likely to consume TOO MUCH protein, resulting in nutritional deficiencies or insufficient fibre. Eating too much protein may also increase the risk of developing heart disease and may worsen kidney function because the body can have trouble eliminating all the waste products of protein metabolism.
Good post Jenny. In my household, these are daily concerns.
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I think the opposite!
There are big changes afoot and the world cannot be sustained as it is with the huge consumption of meat. One company I am invested in called Beyond Meat and there are others out there.
There are different routes this can go down from artificially grown meat in a lab grown from animal cells (no animal is ever killed to supply the meat, because they were never born to begin with) to pure meat free foods which just happen to look and taste like meat. But I reckon it will be a major "thing" to come. Major.
I like the idea of artificially grown meat, but that isn’t vegetarianism or Veganism.
I don’t think they will ever persuade the population to abandon meat, but that is a good compromise.
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Artificially grown meat all sounds a bit Frankenstein to me, we are told that over processed food is bad for us, well as far as i am concerned nothing sounds more over processed than artificially grown meat, funny how everyone fears GM crops and the like yet we are supposed to accept artificially grown meat,
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If everybody turned vegan our landscape would change for ever. Pigs, sheep, deer, cattle, ETC. would become totally extinct. That would be a sad state of affairs.
Deer of course wouldn't become extinct, they run wild. Pigs, sheep and cattle as we know them are man developed creatures anyway.
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Artificially grown meat all sounds a bit Frankenstein to me, we are told that over processed food is bad for us, well as far as i am concerned nothing sounds more over processed than artificially grown meat, funny how everyone fears GM crops and the like yet we are supposed to accept artificially grown meat, Artificially grown meat has already been developed. Like any red meat it isn't a
Artificially grown meat has already been developed, albeit red meat isn't very good for us, regardless of where it comes from. At least it doesn't involve some poor creature having it's throat cut in order Mohammed is appeased. That said, our liberal woke culture would continue to allow Muslims to do as they wish in order nobody gets offended
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In a normal slaughterhouse animals are stunned before being killed, so those should be allowed to continue only where they not stunned should be outlawed.
Still doesn't answer the question why people are offended by gm crops from a laboratory, but not artificially produced meat from a laboratory.
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The crazy thing is that even if we all gave up meat the animals would still be killed so the ingredients can go into making other things like clothes, soap, make-up, food additives, pet food etc. I don't believe that becoming a vegetarian or even vegan should be forced upon others. The problem goes a lot deeper than the meat we eat. We should be thankful that the meat and kill does not go to waste like sharks killed only for their fins and rest chucked back in the Sea for others to eat.
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In a normal slaughterhouse animals are stunned before being killed, so those should be allowed to continue only where they not stunned should be outlawed.
Still doesn't answer the question why people are offended by gm crops from a laboratory, but not artificially produced meat from a laboratory.
I was talking to a vet a few weeks ago. One of his jobs is to attend slaughter houses to check everything is done correctly. According to him they find it simpler to kill the animals the Halal method, and this is the way most of the poor creatures end up. This appeases Muslims, and the rest of the meat eating community don't know any different. Horrible, but true.
For the life of me, I can't see why any meat eater would have a problem eating lab grown meat?
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The crazy thing is that even if we all gave up meat the animals would still be killed so the ingredients can go into making other things like clothes, soap, make-up, food additives, pet food etc. I don't believe that becoming a vegetarian or even vegan should be forced upon others. The problem goes a lot deeper than the meat we eat. We should be thankful that the meat and kill does not go to waste like sharks killed only for their fins and rest chucked back in the Sea for others to eat.
I am not suggesting that anyone should be forced to be a vegan or vegetarian, I propose this will happen naturally in civilised countries over a period of time. This will be for reasons of health, ethics, and the environment. Your other point isn't correct. There is nothing we can't produce without killing animals, even pet food. My son's dog lived to 15 eating a vegetarian diet all it's life. Cats are a little harder to appease, but far from impossible. The slaughter of sharks is indeed vile. For everyone one human being that is killed by a shark, one million sharks are killed by human beings.
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