Almost daily in the news -- Emergency personnel being attacked.

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  • The emergency services deserve better protection. Paramedics, Doctors, Nurses. Fire Fighters, Police Officers are being subjected to violent attacks while carrying out their duties. Society needs those people and anyone attacking them should suffer extreme punishment. Too many Snowflakes making excuses for violent antisocial behaviour is what is encouraging thugs to behave in a violent manner. Time for a change in the Criminal Justice System to reflect the wishes of the silent majority and hand down punitive sentences to those offenders.

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    Time for a change in the Criminal Justice System to reflect the wishes of the silent majority and hand down punitive sentences to those offenders.

    Indeed. We seem to have been breeding a certain type of individual who's first action is to resort to violence, often with a blade. It's not just the emergenncy services that are facing this, shop workers are also being assaulted for doing nothing more than carrying our their job.

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    Indeed. We seem to have been breeding a certain type of individual who's first action is to resort to violence, often with a blade. It's not just the emergenncy services that are facing this, shop workers are also being assaulted for doing nothing more than carrying our their job.

    They are bringing in cameras so that such behaviour can be recorded for later prosecution. Apparently, the knowledge that they are being filmed drastically modifies the behaviour of these out of control, violent people.


    I agree, though, that any violent behaviour that is not self defence or the result of extreme provocation should be punished much more severely, with long sentences handed out.


    We also need to clean up our prisons so that they do not make the behaviour of those incarcerated even worse. We need to put much more effort into preparing people for life on the outside, even if that will not transpire for another quarter of a century in such cases.

  • What counts as extreme provocation, that's the question, is it looking at someone in a funny way, or should I just say looking at them full stop, or maybe being spoken to in a harsh way, or again just being spoken to full stop?

    Young boys in the park jumpers for goalpost that's what footballs all about isn't it.

  • Yes but my examples are what counts to the scum who act that way, the ones who are just looking for an excuse for a ruck.


    You know the type, the ones who turn up at so called "peaceful protests" and hijack it just to cause mayhem and destruction.

    Young boys in the park jumpers for goalpost that's what footballs all about isn't it.

  • With the exception of the police and those in uniform trying to bully and control others I think it's disgusting that people attack medics and firefighters etc who are caring individuals trying to save life's and help people. Of course there are instances where for example medics may have to deal with mentally ill that may attack for whatever reason but the majority is dealing with drunks who become abusive or the odd drug addict but the majority of drugs don't cause folk to become violent. We don't have a nation of meth heads in this country. How much backup do the medics get from Police when for example their are attending a scene of domestic abuse.


    We have to look at what causes the anger. Attacks on hospital staff can be brought on by frustration with the system. Also someone may have a head injury so it's important to be able to separate what is an attack due to a medical issue and this should be handled differently. Maybe better support for staff. Double up on staff to support each other and back each other up. How many lone staff are out there having to deal with things under pressure due to cut backs and meeting targets. Some of them inexperienced or no life experience in knowing how to deal with people along with a fast staff turnover or not being able to keep the staff due to bad treatment both from the employer and the public... F***ing hell in some circumstances there are even communication issues if English is not their first language.


    Even police are sent out on the beat either on foot or in a patrol car on their own now so it's no wonder that attacks are on the increase. Half of them not even real police and community support officers who try to enforce power when they have no rights apart from a citizens arrest. Some of those f***ers will even try to enforce through cohesion a stop and search. So technically the person they have stopped has volunteered through lies manipulation and persuasion relying on the individuals lack of knowledge of law and their rights. What if you want to just walk away from this civilian in uniform. What if they grab you and try and hold you there or start stalking you. It's no wonder they get attacked back. They are becoming to reliant on tech like cameras and radioing in for back up only when required by which time it's too late. Prevention is always better than cure but typically with gov they like to cause the problems first so they can bring in more enforcement of some kind and blame the people. Maybe if they put the funds for all this tech into more staffing and other areas they may prevent the attacks in the first place. As thing stand they are not solving the problem. In fact it may even end up costing more as the prison population rises due to the crime or inability to pay the fines. Actually why not keep fining people for this that and the other. Make them totally skint to the point of not being able to pay their bills and become homeless so they really don't give a shit then and are full of anger with nothing to lose.


    Oh I have missed traffic wardens LOL What can we say about them commercial jobsworths.

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    Yes but my examples are what counts to the scum who act that way, the ones who are just looking for an excuse for a ruck.


    You know the type, the ones who turn up at so called "peaceful protests" and hijack it just to cause mayhem and destruction.

    I would favour a method of dealing with such people that Bibbles would approve of, but scum is scum and they're not going to change while they can still breed more of themselves.

  • The way society is going prison will be more like a welcome break. If we honestly want to change behaviours and make people be more respectful (which works both ways) then we would have to introduce the kind of punishment they have in places like the Philippines. They still whip peoples back in the streets for some mr meaner crimes. If you get caught stealing there's a good chance they will chop you fingers off. They have a low crime rate in the Philippines. Japan is another good example but honour and respect is bred into society from young. If they started to have a multicultural society like ours it would not be long before it changed. We are basically America without the guns and stuck in a smaller more compact higher tensioned island with no escape. At least in the US it's easy for folk to move state or pack up and move into the middle of nowhere.

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    Yes but my examples are what counts to the scum who act that way, the ones who are just looking for an excuse for a ruck.


    You know the type, the ones who turn up at so called "peaceful protests" and hijack it just to cause mayhem and destruction.

    That’s right, and these are the people who need to be locked up for a long time for the sake of our safety.

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    The way society is going prison will be more like a welcome break. If we honestly want to change behaviours and make people be more respectful (which works both ways) then we would have to introduce the kind of punishment they have in places like the Philippines. They still whip peoples back in the streets for some mr meaner crimes. If you get caught stealing there's a good chance they will chop you fingers off. They have a low crime rate in the Philippines. Japan is another good example but honour and respect is bred into society from young. If they started to have a multicultural society like ours it would not be long before it changed. We are basically America without the guns and stuck in a smaller more compact higher tensioned island with no escape. At least in the US it's easy for folk to move state or pack up and move into the middle of nowhere.

    I don’t believe that such extreme punishments should be meted out in a civilised society. However, I do believe that people who commit crimes such as theft, burglary, anti-social behaviour and violent crime should be taken out of society for 5 years minimum, with much longer sentences for violence and re-offending.


    Prisons should be re-thought, with the emphasis on rehabilitation, education and training, and these guys need to be made to work hard at it. Failure to follow the rules, which of course would include penalties for assaulting fellow inmates or the guards, should lead to solitary confinement and a restricted diet. Decent meals should be provided only to those who tow the line.


    Basically, there needs to be much, much better discipline in prisons, with disruptive elements separated from the rest. Army-style discipline should be imposed during the first week of all sentences, and re-imposed for bad behaviour prior to solitary.


    There should be no way to smuggle drugs into prison, and all visitors should have access to their loved ones only through grills. They should not be allowed to touch one another.


    Finally, when prisoners are released, there needs to be a proper system in place to ensure that newly released convicts are given accommodation where necessary and help to find a job, making sure the education and training received in prison pays off. The criminal records check system needs to be smarter so that the disclosure arrangements don’t prevent released prisoners from getting jobs, although safeguards would need to be in place.


    If we really want to tackle crime, we need to impose appropriate measures such as these, and we need to have a new prison building programme as well.


    Of course, we can expect screams of anguish from the woke community for doing all these things. These should be ignored.

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