A step too far for road users.

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  • It's far more objectively considered than the 'I don't want any inconvenience to my life' ethos behind the objections and your post.

    As for your no one is dying nonsense

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56801794

    The coroner said…

    Coroner Phillip Barlow said there is "no safe level of particulate matter" in the air and called for national pollution limits to be reduced.

    Hardly a reasonable statement as well as being untrue. The little girl had many chronic conditions which made her struggle, and the air quality where she lived in Lewisham would be measurable against defined standards.

    Was the pollution created locally or had it drifted in with the wind and prevailing weather conditions?

    I’m sure this little girl had issues that would have been just as severe if she had lived in the countryside. The problem is that it cannot be proven unless there are many people living in and around the Lewisham area displaying equally severe health issues. If that were the case you might have some validity to your point. However from what I understand this was very much an extreme case such that it was newsworthy and supported an agenda often repeated by the BBC newsroom.

    A tragic and isolated case that proves nothing. An unsubstantiable statement from the coroner and a terrible loss for a grieving family.

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  • Criticism over Welsh Labour government's plans for 20mph speed limits
    More than 20,000 people have now signed a petition against the 20mph blanket proposals, due to come into force across Wales on September 17, with some drivers…
    www.dailymail.co.uk

    I cannot believe these Labour politicians are going so far to make driving a thoroughly horrible experience. If nothing else, these sorts of schemes will put people off voting Labour next time.

  • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…eed-limits.html

    I cannot believe these Labour politicians are going so far to make driving a thoroughly horrible experience. If nothing else, these sorts of schemes will put people off voting Labour next time.

    Rest assured the Tories have no intention of reversing the policy.

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  • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…eed-limits.html

    I cannot believe these Labour politicians are going so far to make driving a thoroughly horrible experience. If nothing else, these sorts of schemes will put people off voting Labour next time.

    Nah, if you think about it, with these pre 2015 dirty diesels (mostly) off the road there it'll be better for all the other road users

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  • Let's face it AS your criteria for rejecting coroner's reports and detailed reports is nothing to do with the science and all to do with whether you don't like the reality they are pointing out.

    Old diesels produce high levels of NOx and high levels of NOx produce lung corroding Nitrous and Nitric acids in the lungs and in any quantity that is life inhibiting.

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  • Old diesels produce high levels of NOx and high levels of NOx produce lung corroding Nitrous and Nitric acids in the lungs and in any quantity that is life inhibiting.

    Very true Steve but the coroner was talking about particulate which is very low these days. What I like or dislike is irrelevant.

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  • More indoctrination to push the same agenda. At this moment in time we should be opening up the coal mines again, building furnaces and producing as much armoured plated steel as we possibly can. Forget this girl it's one death. If we don't fix this country now there will many, many, many more deaths. This country will be destroyed even more than it already is. The media in this country have been indoctrinated and are no better than a Russian weapon of mass destruction.

  • More indoctrination to push the same agenda. At this moment in time we should be opening up the coal mines again, building furnaces and producing as much armoured plated steel as we possibly can. Forget this girl it's one death. If we don't fix this country now there will many, many, many more deaths. This country will be destroyed even more than it already is. The media in this country have been indoctrinated and are no better than a Russian weapon of mass destruction.

    Meanwhile the last blast furnaces are about to close

  • Meanwhile the last blast furnaces are about to close

    Yes, the last vestiges of commercial steel production are being removed from the UK by their Indian owners as a result of ridiculous environmental policies and outrageous energy prices. Our loss is somebody else’s gain.

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  • This is what is meant by independance ;) Things like this should all be within our house for in such cases as warfare - energy, food production, the capabilty to build arms, communications etc. Without this we can so easily be screwed over and held at the mercy of other countries who maybe our allies right now but could so easily say no.

  • This is what is meant by independance ;) Things like this should all be within our house for in such cases as warfare - energy, food production, the capabilty to build arms, communications etc. Without this we can so easily be screwed over and held at the mercy of other countries who maybe our allies right now but could so easily say no.

    We once had great organisations in all these sectors but they were either nationalised then run into the ground or sold to foreign entities. Politicians are like crap drivers who can’t look any further ahead than the end of the car bonnet. No critical thinking or long term forecasting for them. The concept of cause and effect is lost on them because they never feel the effects of their stupid decisions.

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • We once had great organisations in all these sectors but they were either nationalised then run into the ground or sold to foreign entities. Politicians are like crap drivers who can’t look any further ahead than the end of the car bonnet. No critical thinking or long term forecasting for them. The concept of cause and effect is lost on them because they never feel the effects of their stupid decisions.

    The problem with our democracy is that governments tend to plan in the relatively short term

    Generally they are thinking about the next election, not the long term future

  • The problem with our democracy is that governments tend to plan in the relatively short term

    Generally they are think about the next election, not the long term future

    And a huge reason for that is because so many voters think even shorter term and in only 'what's in it for me' terms. Collectively we get the politicians we collectively deserve but if anyone cares to look or meet a few they'll find that most are good people. yes the Abbotts, 30p Lees, Corbyns, Dorisses and Borises get much more attention. Bad apples in a barrel always do.

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