Macron is head-to-head with Le Pen in the French elections

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  • Macron and Le Pen head for French election runoff, projections show
    France's incumbent leader Emmanuel Macron and far-right challenger Marine Le Pen are heading for an April 24 presidential election runoff, projections showed…
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    Unsurprisingly, the first round of the French elections has resulted in President Macron and Marine Le Pen going head-to-head in the second round.


    Macron has lost a lot of his popularity now, and so it is a real possibility that Le Pen May scrape in to win.


    I don’t know what this will mean for France, but she is no EU enthusiast. My concern is her extremist views. She intends to ban the burka for Muslim women, for example, which is bound to create resentment and give terrorist groups a renewed purpose for carrying out terrorist acts. And then what? Persecution of Muslims?


    I’m not looking forward to having a fascist country next door to us.

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  • Unlike you OB I have no respect for Macron. The sooner he is history the better for Anglo / French co-operation.

    If Le Pen or another candidate is successful, as long as they back Frexit I will be happy.

    I disagree that controlling Muslim terrorism is being fascist. It is common sense and our government should have been doing that for years.

    France is a non religious state and any outward symbol of any religion is frowned upon, therefore. I see nothing wrong on banning the burka in public places.

    I personally don't care who gets the job as long as it's not Macron.

  • Well, I don’t like Macron either. I was simply contemplating what things would be like under Le Pen.


    Whether she would turn out as racist as some believe remains to be seen.

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  • What Macron should be asking himself is why are many French Citizens giving their support to a Right Wing Party , IMO because many are not happy with being in the EU , and the obvious not happy with Macron's leadership.


    To divert attention away from his performance he has a go about the British especially because we have now taken back more control of our territorial waters, he is losing support from the French Fishermen.


    France has a serious problem with terrorism due to a large population of Muslims among them are active terrorists, similar story here in the UK.


    I think it may well be a very close run race

  • In relation to terrorism, it doesn’t help that there is such disdain with people from the Muslim community, particularly with the moves to ban their chosen form of dress. Annoy a community like this and there will be a reaction.


    As for Macron himself, he is viewed as being arrogant, and that alone may cook his goose.

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  • I must admit Burka wearing makes me a little nervous , wife stays well away from them as she says you have no idea who is under them male or female and what else they may have under them

  • I cannot see Macron losing in the next round. The "far-left" candidate polled only slightly less than Le Pen and has been eliminated. Those who voted for him will most likely vote for Macron as it is highly unlikely they will vote for a right wing candidate. I think the talk of Macron losing has been in hope more than anything but the French Arab and other diversity groups are unlikely to vote for Le Pen, that would be like turkeys voting for Christmas.

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  • You may well be right, but Le Pen has been addressing the concerns of young voters, and if they turn out in great numbers ‘Corbyn style’, France may be in for a shock.


    I certainly wouldn’t write off Le Pen - she’s in with an outside chance.

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  • You may well be right, but Le Pen has been addressing the concerns of young voters, and if they turn out in great numbers ‘Corbyn style’, France may be in for a shock.


    I certainly wouldn’t write off Le Pen - she’s in with an outside chance.

    I admire your optimism and hope you’re right. But I think it is very much an outside chance at best.

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  • As others have said, I'm no fan of Macron either. He has been a total C**t over Brexit, the virus and many other things. But Le Penn is ultimately bad news too, too far the other direction and she certainly won't be any ally to Britain either.


    On the issue of Muslims in France, we need to be a bit more specfic here and say that much of this stems from their Algerian and Tuninisian populations and this has been going for decades before we were ever subjected to Islamic extremism.


    France is and always will be a very top down heavy country and they are far less tolerant of us in many things and if Len Penn wins, I would expect her to make some moves of the North Arican population that lives in France.

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  • I agree that other than the good thing about deposing Macron, Le Pen is not good news. She is a National Socialist. Due to her nationalist views, she is labelled a fascist, but her other policies are close to Communism.


    It's all very interesting, but worrying at the same time.

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  • France needs a new direction. Be it Le Pen or the Communist candidate who is successful, it's has to put France in a far better position. As long as Macron is finished completely.

  • The final vote is between Macron and Le Pen. The first vote eliminated the rest of the field. That is the way it works over there.

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  • France needs a new direction. Be it Le Pen or the Communist candidate who is successful, it's has to put France in a far better position. As long as Macron is finished completely.

    That's what I wanted too, but now faced with the reality that Le Pen, who is a ally of Putin, might win the election, then I think it's better the devil you know in this case.

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  • That's what I wanted too, but now faced with the reality that Le Pen, who is a ally of Putin, might win the election, then I think it's better the devil you know in this case.

    Yes, there are no good options for France.

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  • Clearing out some old threads and came across this from Morgan back in 2017 which I thought might be relevent here.


    Le Pen is promoting herself differently for this election, but bearing in mind the comments above, has she really changed?

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  • Clearing out some old threads and came across this from Morgan back in 2017 which I thought might be relevent here.


    Le Pen is promoting herself differently for this election, but bearing in mind the comments above, has she really changed?

    What is your point H?

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  • I suspect the mother of all backlashes is firing up and Frexit may kick it into action in the EU. Swexit could be next.

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