Labour wants to govern again - but is the Party fit for purpose?

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  • Starmer sets out plans to make Britain fastest-growing G7 economy - EasternEye
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    Well, you know….we’d all love to see the plan.

    I can’t see Sir Kier Starmer being able to deliver on these promises, let alone win the election in the first place. Things will look a lot less rosy for Labour by the time of the General Election, which is still almost two years away. He won’t be able to sustain that 20% lead over the Conservatives for much longer. As the government get their act together, that lead will be whittled away.

    I would like to think that we had a credible opposition with different policies, but Labour is the party of nightmares.

  • They do have a website with their manifesto, but I doubt Labour will turn Britain around. The damage is so great now I don’t think any policies can fix it. What Labour could do is divert some of the money going into the pockets of Conservative Del Boys and put it back into services. Perhaps prevent some nationalization of the public services by the greedy, but that’s about all. Who knows until they've had a go instead of assuming it will be a nightmare.

  • The Conservatives will turn this around before the election so Starmer will have to campaign on something else, like giving more power to the unions. 🥺

  • OLD BOY February 23, 2023 at 7:46 PM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Labour wants to govern again - but is the Party fitforpurpose?” to “Labour wants to govern again - but is the Party fit for purpose?”.
  • The Conservatives will turn this around before the election so Starmer will have to campaign on something else, like giving more power to the unions. 🥺

    If the Conservatives can turn around the mess they’ve made in six years before the next election, you have my word I’ll vote for them.

  • The Labour party has a long way to go before it is fit to run the country. While Starmer may be an acceptable face with moderate ideas, he is just a puppet with his strings being manipulated by the ultra left Marxists who will drop Starmer as soon as possible if they were to win a GE. The UK would be in great danger if the Marxists ever gained power.

    The Voice of Reason

  • I think you'll wait a long time for Labour to become Tory. Currently, there's more chance of us moving towards corporatism or corporate fascism than Marxism.

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    Well, you know….we’d all love to see the plan.

    I can’t see Sir Kier Starmer being able to deliver on these promises, let alone win the election in the first place. Things will look a lot less rosy for Labour by the time of the General Election, which is still almost two years away. He won’t be able to sustain that 20% lead over the Conservatives for much longer. As the government get their act together, that lead will be whittled away.

    I would like to think that we had a credible opposition with different policies, but Labour is the party of nightmares.

    As I've said before on other threads, I will never vote for Starmer.

    The woke policies he brought in at the CPS, has destroyed our justice system. I would never trust him, never.

  • The Labour party has a long way to go before it is fit to run the country. While Starmer may be an acceptable face with moderate ideas, he is just a puppet with his strings being manipulated by the ultra left Marxists who will drop Starmer as soon as possible if they were to win a GE. The UK would be in great danger if the Marxists ever gained power.

    You keep spouting this nonsense without any evidence

  • The Conservatives will turn this around before the election so Starmer will have to campaign on something else, like giving more power to the unions. 🥺

    Not a hope in hell , Brexit not only messed up this country but it has left the Conservative party

    fundamentally divided.

    Sunak potentially has deal with the EU that will not only help the issues with trade in NI

    but will be seen across the world as Britain moving onwards & hopefully upwards

    The ERG & Johnson look set to vote it down

    There a few decent people left in the party but they have been sidelined by the nutters

    Johnson, Truss , Rees-Mogg & the ERG not to mention the mention the wealthy donors

    all of whom are squabbling

    The Russian economy is expected to grow faster than the UK FFS

  • As I've said before on other threads, I will never vote for Starmer.

    The woke policies he brought in at the CPS, has destroyed our justice system. I would never trust him, never.

    What Woke policies were they?

  • I think the ‘reds under the bed’ one is getting a bit dated now. ‘We’ll keep the red flag flying here’ thing ended with Blair’s New Labour and now there’s not much difference between the main two. Labour will dip their hands in the till same as the Tories, just not so blatantly.

  • I think the ‘reds under the bed’ one is getting a bit dated now. ‘We’ll keep the red flag flying here’ thing ended with Blair’s New Labour and now there’s not much difference between the main two. Labour will dip their hands in the till same as the Tories, just not so blatantly.

    It is dated, I agree, because they are in the bed now.

    Having said that, I don't think Starmer is a Commie, although he stood by Corbyn while he was Leader of the Opposition. But he is woke, bland and won't be able to keep his party, let alone the country, together. He criticises the government and comes up with a few off the cuff ideas but he appears not to have a clue how to implement them.

    He would be a disaster if he and his rebellious crew of Corbynites, bleeding heart socialists and liberals, ne'er do wells and the angry mob ever got into power. If the Conservatives fall into line under Sunak and he steadies the ship, he will defeat Labour, albeit with a reduced majority. But a lot may yet happen. The negotiations on the Protocol may spark off a new rebellion, there could be some adverse developments in Russia's merciless and barbaric bid to take over Ukraine, some unexpected major world event, or similar which throws the government off course again. Much can still go wrong, but our government will be able to handle those things far more competently than Starmer's Labour Party ever could.

    That's not to say that the armchair critics couldn't do better...

  • It is dated, I agree, because they are in the bed now.

    Having said that, I don't think Starmer is a Commie, although he stood by Corbyn while he was Leader of the Opposition. But he is woke, bland and won't be able to keep his party, let alone the country, together. He criticises the government and comes up with a few off the cuff ideas but he appears not to have a clue how to implement them.

    He would be a disaster if he and his rebellious crew of Corbynites, bleeding heart socialists and liberals, ne'er do wells and the angry mob ever got into power. If the Conservatives fall into line under Sunak and he steadies the ship, he will defeat Labour, albeit with a reduced majority. But a lot may yet happen. The negotiations on the Protocol may spark off a new rebellion, there could be some adverse developments in Russia's merciless and barbaric bid to take over Ukraine, some unexpected major world event, or similar which throws the government off course again. Much can still go wrong, but our government will be able to handle those things far more competently than Starmer's Labour Party ever could.

    That's not to say that the armchair critics couldn't do better...

    We’re all armchair critics but the facts speak for themselves

    The economy is stagnant & the Tory party is fractured, the one Nation Tory party has disappeared from sight

    I agree that Starmer is a bit bland & touch woke but he has sidelined the far left

    & got rid of Corbyn

    Is his job to hold the government to account, & let’s face it your beloved Tory party have run this country into the ground over the last 12 years.

    The own this mess

  • It is dated, I agree, because they are in the bed now.

    Having said that, I don't think Starmer is a Commie, although he stood by Corbyn while he was Leader of the Opposition. But he is woke, bland and won't be able to keep his party, let alone the country, together. He criticises the government and comes up with a few off the cuff ideas but he appears not to have a clue how to implement them.

    He would be a disaster if he and his rebellious crew of Corbynites, bleeding heart socialists and liberals, ne'er do wells and the angry mob ever got into power. If the Conservatives fall into line under Sunak and he steadies the ship, he will defeat Labour, albeit with a reduced majority. But a lot may yet happen. The negotiations on the Protocol may spark off a new rebellion, there could be some adverse developments in Russia's merciless and barbaric bid to take over Ukraine, some unexpected major world event, or similar which throws the government off course again. Much can still go wrong, but our government will be able to handle those things far more competently than Starmer's Labour Party ever could.

    That's not to say that the armchair critics couldn't do better...

    Both sides are a bit ‘Woke’ Old Boy, it’s a modern era and Sunak is as ‘green’ as the rest of them. They’re playing to an audience to get votes, just as Boris did as Mayor of London when he championed immigration. Sunak too gave his five points, but not how to implement them. As leader of the opposition, it’s Starmer’s job to criticize the government.

    Sunak is the usual promises, as bland as The Milky Bar Kid. He doesn’t exactly inspire confidence and seems to have disappeared lately. I’m sure you cheered for May and Truss too, another useless pair. You’re expecting Sunak to overturn six years of disasters, which as Chancellor he was largely responsible for and it isn’t going to happen.

    Stand by for austerity cuts and tax increases shortly. You didn’t think all that money wasted on Covid came from a money tree, did you? Armchair critics? If Labour win you’ll be the one squealing the most on here. Eat the Rich! ^^    

  • Labour used to be the party of working people. Now it's the domain of Champaign socialists, anarchists, anti UK haters, layabouts and ne'er do wells.

    It's not in any way fit to govern. It needs a root and branch clear-out before going to the electorate.

    The Voice of Reason

  • Labour used to be the party of working people. Now it's the domain of Champaign socialists, anarchists, anti UK haters, layabouts and ne'er do wells.

    It's not in any way fit to govern. It needs a root and branch clear-out before going to the electorate.

    That’s true. They followed the Conservative money trail. If you have a car that’s a write-off, you can still make money selling the spare parts that work before you completely scrap it. That's what's happening now.

  • The First World War wiped out a whole generation. This was followed by a depression that looked like Dickensian times. Orwell didn’t just write ‘1984’, he was a social commentator. If you ever get the chance, read ‘Down and out in Paris and London’ and ‘The road to Wigan Pier.’ The depression was followed by the Second World War and if you survived all that you might be asking what exactly it was you were fighting for.

    Out of all that came the welfare state. When Beveridge designed that he wasn’t designing it for a few greedy businessmen to make a profit from, he was giving it to us. We’re the shareholders and if management (government) don’t do a good job we can throw them out and replace them. Thatcher started our decline.

    Over the years we lost British Rail, the coal industry, the ship building industry, the car industry … In came the venture capitalists, made a killing and now we’ve got little left. Ah you might say, but the nationalized industries weren’t making a profit.

    It wasn’t about profit, the nationalized industries provided employment for millions, it’s where our engineers and skilled came from, the ones we’re now having to import. It’s where the current millions of unemployed would have been working instead of being on benefits. Instead we’re churning out shedloads of useless trainee managers with MBA’s and cheering on Tory MP’s who got rich from it with their shareholdings and slimy corporate ‘advisor’ positions …

    Just a Grandpa rant. :)

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