Local Elections 2023

Quote from Steve13

Evidence is that student double voting is more myth than reality. That said yes the loophole should be closed I suggest your voting age of 21 would seem more to be abput the tendency for younger voters to vote Labour than any real electoral concern. And anyway many students are over 21.

All that's needed is to make it illegal for students to be on two electoral rolls (which are easily cross checkable). Postal voting makes it unnecessary for them to have two options on the day.

I agree with that first paragraph Steve, it is also a fact that immigrants are also more likely to vote Labour, so clearly any attempts made to change the voting age or demographic are clearly attempts at interfering with election outcomes. This was also rather cynically used by the SNP in there indyref, personally I believe this should be legislated against.

Quote from Canny Lad

I agree with that first paragraph Steve, it is also a fact that immigrants are also more likely to vote Labour, so clearly any attempts made to change the voting age or demographic are clearly attempts at interfering with election outcomes. This was also rather cynically used by the SNP in there indyref, personally I believe this should be legislated against.

I’m of the view that voting is a privilege not a right. There should be qualification criteria before you are allowed to vote and I do particularly aim this at preventing people who are new to these shores from being able to vote literally on arrival. One of the means by which politicians try to maintain power is by demographic change. We see this happening in the United States and Labour have tried this here.

I view it as a Right not a Privilege a Right that took a long time to come about over many years especially for women, the Reform Act 1832 only gave men who were 21 years of age or over who were freeholders of their own property could vote.

It was not until 1867 that all men could could vote, women only had the right to vote in 1928 brought about by violent and non violent means

That is why I always vote in local and General Elections even though I have little faith in the Party's and Politicians on offer , at least I have had my say doing nothing is not an option for me.

I have long thought that including an extra box on Voting Slips that says " None of the above candidates or Party " it might just make all out Politicians sit up and listen, but I doubt it.

People who don't vote especially women annoy me , it took a long time for them to be asked their opinion at least have you say

Quote from Steve13

No shit Sherlock. The problem is detecting it especially in time. So instead of your gerrymandering idea of precluding under 21s my suggestion of electoral rolls works and is fair.

We already have an electoral register.

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I’m of the view that voting is a privilege not a right. There should be qualification criteria before you are allowed to vote and I do particularly aim this at preventing people who are new to these shores from being able to vote literally on arrival. One of the means by which politicians try to maintain power is by demographic change. We see this happening in the United States and Labour have tried this here.

I don’t agree it is a right , anyone living in this country legally above the age of 18 should be able to vote

Without universal suffrage we no not have a democracy

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Quote from Bread

We already have an electoral register.

Yes but the point you are missing is it is not illegal to be on two registers. That's what needs changing not your stop left leaning voters having the vote gerrymandering.

Quote from Steve13

Yes but the point you are missing is it is not illegal to be on two registers. That's what needs changing not your stop left leaning voters having the vote gerrymandering.

Having a single, centralised register with voter lookup facilities would be great ! But we don't have one (as you point out) and the chances of having the registers integrated would take years and billions of pounds, just like every other government IT project. It would probably fail as well just like every other government IT project.

For now, I'd settle with moving the voting age to 21.

And we know the real reason why you want that

Quote from Bread

Having a single, centralised register with voter lookup facilities would be great ! But we don't have one (as you point out) and the chances of having the registers integrated would take years and billions of pounds, just like every other government IT project. It would probably fail as well just like every other government IT project.

For now, I'd settle with moving the voting age to 21.

18 years old it generally the age that society recognises people as adult

If we are to recognise ourselves as a democracy then everyone who lives here legally should have the right to vote .

There are plenty of stupid people who don’t have a clue how the world works get to vote but that’s the price you pay for democracy

"Everyone who lives here" sorry TR that's crap and straight out of the SNP book of tackling problems to suit their needs.

Ever listen to them? They NEVER say the "SCOTTISH PEOPLE" they always use the "PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SCOTLAND".

You may feel that is fair, but I sure don't believe someone who is now a resident of the UK but a national from another country should have thecsamecsay in my country as i do.

There is nothingvwrong with our system that tightening a few nuts and bolts, enforcing the ID production rules and a dip check of postal votes to ensure an acceptable level of fraud is not exceeded. What is an acceptable level I hear you say, well that acceptable levels is what is scientifically and or mathematically shown to be within tolerances for the system, ofcwhich very few are 100% secure.

The stupid people are those that think they can hoodwink us with unacceptable election interference shite.

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18 years old it generally the age that society recognises people as adult

If we are to recognise ourselves as a democracy then everyone who lives here legally should have the right to vote .

There are plenty of stupid people who don’t have a clue how the world works get to vote but that’s the price you pay for democracy

Not when they commit electoral fraud.