Should drugs be legalised?

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  • This subject has been much debated, but for once, Scotland’s heart is in the right place.

    Scottish government calls for UK to decriminalise personal drug use
    Ministers say people found in possession of drugs to be treated and supported rather than criminalised and excluded.
    metro.co.uk

    The SNP is overreaching itself by proposing laws which are for the UK to make in Westminster. The devolved parliament has no power whatsoever to decide on these matters.

    But my question is, is it not time to have an intelligent debate about this?

    Decriminalising drugs will eliminate the criminal element. The drugs lords would be dislodged, drug taking criminality will be drastically reduced and drug takers would take drugs under medical supervision and with access to advice on how to give up.

    It’s a no brainier, but neither of the main political parties will consider it.

  • No no no. Intelligent people don't want Scotland to be the Junkie capital of the UK.

    Drugged up morons roaming the streets committing all sorts of heinous crimes before returning to their tax payer funded Shoot Up Rooms and consuming all sorts of poisonous drugs..

    Drugs destroy families ......Drugs destroy society and encourage antisocial behaviour.

    Junkies need to be taken off drugs by going cold turkey for at least six months in a controlled locked facility.

    Society doesn't need junkies.....

    The Voice of Reason

  • Quite. But it exists. You cannot ignore it. The present legal climate doesn’t work. So what do you suggest?

    Better to be in control and give people a way out, surely.

  • If the supply, possession and use of these drugs was totally legal what sort of society would we have? Not much of one IMHO so we have to restrict them in some way. This Scotland idea would further the absurdity that possession and use are effectively widely legal but supply is not. The result would be an even bigger drug supply gangland with its associated vicious crime.

    We should be doing more to restrict users not pretend they are not fuelling the problems.

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  • It should be legalised but with drugs only available from a dedicated drugs unit in the NHS, providing guidance to those taking them and helping people to get off them when ready to do so.

    Currently, if you tell your supplier you intend to come off the drugs, you'll suddenly get presented with a harder drug at a knockdown price to keep you hooked. The NHS would assist you with the transition away from these substances.

    The current system does not work and it encourages criminality. The US found that during Prohibition, when alcohol was banned. Apparently we didn't learn that lesson.

  • It should be legalised but with drugs only available from a dedicated drugs unit in the NHS, providing guidance to those taking them and helping people to get off them when ready to do so.

    I strongly disagree with legalising drugs...... junkies should be denied any harmful substances whatsoever. They should go through cold turkey for 6 months in a secure environment as part of their rehabilitation. Having survived that, the last thing that a Junkie would want is a repeat of that treatment ...This country is too soft on Junkies.

    The Voice of Reason

  • We are too soft on dealers they are killing people they need weak willed individuals to sell to, bang the dealers up for longer the problem is that the media rock stars etc tell weak its safe its fun , even Cannabis is not safe to some.

    That is why our Psychiatric Wards are full of them, and many are in prison after pycnotic episode and murdered or seriously injured people , alcohol is bad enough

  • We can pretend we can get tougher and tougher on dealers but that line has never worked. Many of them are addicted themselves and will just take the risk and there will always be others willing to take their places.

    Having effective legal use but illegal supply just creates a guarantee of criminality, much of it extremely vicious

    Having universal legal supply and legal use will just create a non functional society. Everyone has their down moments in life, what we don't need is a sizeable % of us turning to addictive physchoactive drugs in those moments.

    There's several BIG differences between drug use and alcohol use that makes the comparison with prohibition. It's hard to hide high alcohol use, you can small it on the breath at a distance, it's also very easy to detect when used in safety situations like driving and most alcohol users do it for the taste and are able to avoid addictive chronic use.

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  • I strongly disagree with legalising drugs...... junkies should be denied any harmful substances whatsoever. They should go through cold turkey for 6 months in a secure environment as part of their rehabilitation. Having survived that, the last thing that a Junkie would want is a repeat of that treatment ...This country is too soft on Junkies.

    I wouldn't agree with that line. One of the dumbest things we ever did in the war on drugs was the Daily Mail led successful 1960s campaign to stop doctors being able to prescribe heroin to addicts. It was the key moment in making drug supply a £Mmulti criminal rewarding business.

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  • In my opinion, drugs should be legalised but made available only through NHS clinics. Get the criminals off the streets and get the addicts the help to move off them when they finally see sense.

  • In my opinion, drugs should be legalised but made available only through NHS clinics. Get the criminals off the streets and get the addicts the help to move off them when they finally see sense.

    They did have Needle Clinics at one stage to try and prevent infections by addicts using needles over and over again or sharing needles with other uses which were contaminated, don't know if they are still going.

    The facts are narcotics of one kind or another have been used way back in the mists of time, if I recall correctly Heroin addicts were proscribed with a Methadone substitute instead of street bought Heroin and all its impurities bulked up by the Dealers to maximise profits.

    We had Opium Dens in the major Cities back in Dickensian times, yes legalise them would cut out the dealers but that would not reduce the number of addicts IMHO.

    Countries that have relaxed Drugs enforcement has not worked either

  • I think in time, the number of addicts would reduce because help would be there immediately to get off the drugs. As soon as any dealer knows one of his slaves is trying to come off them, they offer them a deal which may result in more powerful drugs being provided.

    It is very important to get the criminals off the streets. That will cut down addictions, and reduce criminality generally. Whether you legalise drugs or criminalise them, you won’t stop those determined to acquire them from finding a way around the law.

  • I think in time, the number of addicts would reduce because help would be there immediately to get off the drugs. As soon as any dealer knows one of his slaves is trying to come off them, they offer them a deal which may result in more powerful drugs being provided.

    It is very important to get the criminals off the streets. That will cut down addictions, and reduce criminality generally. Whether you legalise drugs or criminalise them, you won’t stop those determined to acquire them from finding a way around the law.

    IMHO there is no solution

  • This change as I have advocated will not require more police, and with the considerable reduction in petty thefts to fund an increasingly costly habit, the police will have more time to deal with other crimes.

  • This change as I have advocated will not require more police, and with the considerable reduction in petty thefts to fund an increasingly costly habit, the police will have more time to deal with other crimes.

    Even if it does work, we will still not have enough of Police Officers as the population is increasing day after day week in week out

  • Well, yes, that’s true! There needs to be much more investment in the police (funded by an end to bureaucratic inefficiencies, which are endemic in our civil service and public bodies).

  • Well, yes, that’s true! There needs to be much more investment in the police (funded by an end to bureaucratic inefficiencies, which are endemic in our civil service and public bodies.

    The Police have to record everything they do , due to complaints whatever they do is questioned by someone and in some cases orchestrated for compensation

  • Criminalise possession and usage, mandatory cold turkey in prison until clean for first offence. Mandatory life sentences for second offences. Life sentences for drug dealing at any level. This goes for all drugs, even weed.

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