Religion - does it have a place in modern society?

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  • Why is blasphemy such a sensitive issue in Pakistan?
    Alleged blasphemers risk death at the hands of vigilantes, even under unproven allegations of insulting Islam.
    www.aljazeera.com

    I am often puzzled about why it is that people still believe in religion as they do. When I went to school, I was convinced that religion had had its day - none of us children believed in it, and it seemed that it would die out with the older generation.

    But even now, in the modern world, Christian belief still continues, both within my own generation and younger ones too. Mind you, we’ve come a long way from the days of unquestioning belief and punishment for non-believers.

    As for the Muslim religion, the Aljazeera link above just shows how ingrained it is amongst more backward peoples, who put fear into anyone who dares to question the faith, and so even intelligent people bow down to it to avoid provocation and violence.

    Is religion a scourge on society? Does it have any relevance or benefits in today’s world? I think it does bring comfort to people who are suffering, to be honest, but I’m just constantly surprised that so many otherwise intelligent people still believe in all this stuff.

    Am I on my own here in thinking this?

  • It's simply a following in the same way folk follow groups on social media or follow the MSM. Religion can bring much comfort and a social life to many people. Apple computers is said to be a religious cult. Why do many folk decide to follow Apple and not Microsoft. Everyone of them examples manipulates us into their beliefs and way of life.

  • People should be entitled to have personal beliefs. It's not religion that's at fault...... It's the organisation behind the religious practices who cause the issues. Take the example of the Islamic faith where very powerful people bend religious teachings to hate other Religious groups. This also applies within certain Christian churches where the top hierarchy are all powerful and claim that every other branch of Christianity is not Christian. More wars have been started over religious dogma than any other reason.

    The Voice of Reason

  • It's simply a following in the same way folk follow groups on social media or follow the MSM. Religion can bring much comfort and a social life to many people. Apple computers is said to be a religious cult. Why do many folk decide to follow Apple and not Microsoft. Everyone of them examples manipulates us into their beliefs and way of life.

    Interesting, Norra. :thumbup:

    It just goes to show that we're tribal and we want to belong to a tribe, whether it be a religious one or something else.

    Is religion a scourge on society?

    Yes. The amount of people that have died over it, is evil in itself.

    Does it have any relevance or benefits in today’s world?

    I don't think so, but lots of people seem to disagree.

    I think it does bring comfort to people who are suffering, to be honest, but I’m just constantly surprised that so many otherwise intelligent people still believe in all this stuff.

    As do I.

  • I'm not even sure if everyone who joins a religion actually believes in it and they actually join more for that sense of companionship and social aspect or they where introduced at a young age, Sunday school etc by their parents and have simply made friends and stuck with it. It can also have very close ties with the local community and act as a community centre and social hub. The problem is with the constant preaching there is a threat of indoctrination to where one can then start to believe. I don't believe in all the stories in the bible anymore than I do fairytales or that there is some mystical being above us all controlling things but I do believe in the moral guidance of it all and what it teaches for example the 10 commandments and caring for others, a marriage into a committed partnership etc. Think about the Harvest festival and the gathering and sharing of food to those worse off than you. What's bad about that. It gives people a good solid grounding to be a decent, trustworthy and respected caring member of the community and to generally be a good citizen with decent values. There are exceptions of course but for the majority it does.

    But that's Christianity, when it comes to other religions there are different factors involved. Some being more extremist than others with strict rules. What I disagree with is having religion forced onto children at schools unless it's specifically a religious school and that goes for religious education classes too. I don't even think it's something that should be celebrated but look how Christmas has been commercialised and forced upon people. Very underhand tactics IMO to slip religion into the main stream. It's the same with the Military and Royal celebrations but that's traditional and all part of the ceremonies. There's no need for it and it should not be forced upon people though one can still appreciate the showmanship and singing. It would be great if there was an alternative day to remembrance day that did not involve religion but I guess the piss up in the pub or NAFI afterwards can do that.

    I'm actually considering joining a church just so I don't have to work Sundays anymore LOL

  • Religion plays no part in my life.

    I don't believe in the Gods of books or an eternal afterlife - the quality of which dependent on one's conduct during a brief stop over on Earth.

    So it should come as no surprise what my answer might be to the question.

    But...

    ...if it helps people make sense of their lives, brings them peace of mind and all that then who am I to deprive them of their right to believe in whatever they want?

    I've no problem with religious folk quizzing me over my lack of faith. it's happened many a time in the past and will probably happen again in the future. I'm fine with it right up to the point where the high ground gets claimed and therein lies my one big concern with religion - because in my experience it's only a matter of time before one of the members of whatever club they subscribe to, starts looking down their nose and calling non members (and in particular non-believers) out. it's usually the more devout one's that are the worst for doing that - and we all know where that can lead.

  • Indeed, and as long as they don’t act out that religion by murderous acts and intimidation, I am happy with that.

    I simply don’t understand why so many people are hooked on it in this day and age.

    If I disappeared from a picnic for a few hours and came back claiming that I spoke to God through a burning bush, I would expect to be committed. And yet when it is in the Bible, somehow it becomes believable.

    However, if the river parts for me one day to allow me to escape from a gang in close pursuit and then crashes together again when I’m on the other side, drowning my pursuers, I’ll take it all back!

  • I'm a great admirer of most faiths even though I'm agnostic myself. Where I have huge issues is with the organised religions that historically and even today are much more about protecting usurped power.

    I wouldn't ban religions but it's very wrong that so many states (incl ours even if only nominally) have a religion as the prime legal authority.

    I would ban those two evil books The Quran and the Bible from schools

    Currently ignoring Echo 10

  • I simply don’t understand why so many people are hooked on it in this day and age.

    Indoctrination?

    The witnesses were out doing their door to door sales pitch armed with their Watchtower magazine this morning on the road where my daughter lives.. T'was a 3 generation family unit that came to the door, with the eldest being around my age (early 60's and the youngest no more than 8-10 years old).

    By the time those kids are old enough to have a mind of their own will they have a mind of their own?

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