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  • That's one of Camilla Tominya's most well know lies. She really does have you in her pocket doesn't she.


    He voted against the UK leaving the EU over 40 times in Parliament. Go and check it out and come back here when you have the facts.

  • I'll defend anyone from attack by false instrument.

    And had you cared to look (or more accurately honestly remember) you would know I have posted several times that I can't vote for him

    He shares your principles Steve, why can't you vote for him but somehow you can defend him, with his track record and all that ?

  • He voted against the UK leaving the EU over 40 times in Parliament. Go and check it out and come back here when you have the facts.

    That's what your pinup Camilla wrote in the Daily Torygraph but it was not true

    Keir Starmer hasn’t voted 48 times to take the UK back into the EU - Full Fact
    The figure repeatedly quoted by Boris Johnson appears to include some votes which were not about whether or not the UK should be part of the EU.
    fullfact.org


    Cue more sad denial?

  • He shares your principles Steve, why can't you vote for him but somehow you can defend him, with his track record and all that ?

    I'll defend anyone from attack by false instrument. Do you need that explained in simpler language?

  • I'll defend anyone from attack by false instrument.

    And had you cared to look (or more accurately honestly remember) you would know I have posted several times that I can't vote for him

    Perhaps you should add “& Bread “ to the bottom of your page ? :)

  • That's what your pinup Camilla wrote in the Daily Torygraph but it was not true

    https://fullfact.org/europe/keir-starmer-48-votes-brexit/


    Cue more sad denial?

    Every single one of those votes was to frustrate the UK leaving the EU. From 2016 to 2019 Starmer did everything he could to call for a second referendum to get us back into the EU and even (on many occasions) went to Brussels with his mate Corbyn to deliberately try and scupper Brexit by siding with the EU during negotiations.


    If you think Tominey is wrong and Fullfact are right over this, you seriously need help. Name one occasion during those 48 votes that Starmer backed Brexit ?

  • I wish to thank Steve 13 for "officially" announcing he intends to ignore me. Thank you Steve 13.

    8|Do not trade me a Rabbit and hand me a Hare. (I know the strain of species in Leporidae).

    Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

  • Every single one of those votes was to frustrate the UK leaving the EU. From 2016 to 2019 Starmer did everything he could to call for a second referendum to get us back into the EU and even (on many occasions) went to Brussels with his mate Corbyn to deliberately try and scupper Brexit by siding with the EU during negotiations.


    If you think Tominey is wrong and Fullfact are right over this, you seriously need help. Name one occasion during those 48 votes that Starmer backed Brexit ?

    We all know that if anyone 'seriously needs help' it's those that think we haven't left the EU. They're probably holding hands with those that say FullFact is wrong but can't actually refute a single word they publish.

    Anyway as you ask so impolitely, from https://fullfact.org/europe/keir-starmer-48-votes-brexit/

    'At least eight votes were not on the main withdrawal bill or the parliamentary process around it, but on other pieces of Brexit-related legislation. This includes votes on the Customs Bill, the Trade Bill and the Agriculture Bill.The purpose of the Customs Bill (officially the The Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Bill) was to allow the government to create a functioning customs, VAT and excise regime for the UK following Brexit.'

  • We all know that if anyone 'seriously needs help' it's those that think we haven't left the EU. They're probably holding hands with those that say FullFact is wrong but can't actually refute a single word they publish.

    Anyway as you ask so impolitely, from https://fullfact.org/europe/keir-starmer-48-votes-brexit/

    'At least eight votes were not on the main withdrawal bill or the parliamentary process around it, but on other pieces of Brexit-related legislation. This includes votes on the Customs Bill, the Trade Bill and the Agriculture Bill.The purpose of the Customs Bill (officially the The Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Bill) was to allow the government to create a functioning customs, VAT and excise regime for the UK following Brexit.'

    Starmer wanted us in the customs union and single market if thats what you mean. Don't believe faux fact, I did warn you but you seem to have been duped. Starmer wanted a second referendum too, he doesn't care what people voted for, same as the Lib Dems and Greens.

    We haven't left the EU either - we are bound by the TCA and Winsor Framework, I guess I can't make you understand. All I seem to get from you is this perpetual splitting hairs and denial. You demonstrate why its pointless trying to have any sensible discussion with a socialist.

  • Starmer is devoid of policies --- He has none.. How does he expect anybody but a cretin to vote Labour, when they won't know what they are voting for.. Starmer's only claim to fame is his ability to about turn on decisions made earlier. He is a fake .... He is not trustworthy.

    The Voice of Reason

  • DNFTT

    Any serious poster want to back Bread's devotion to Camilla Tominney's false story about Starmer?

    Youre everything you accuse me of.

    Now wanting other people to answer your questions because you're unable to answer them yourself. The absolute state of you LOL

  • A coalition is just as valid. It is accepted in the political system. The point is, he did not say: "Vote for me and I will invade Poland and kill the Jews" - that's my point. His inner evil, satanic character was not on show.

    so it is!

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