Palestinian marches in Britain

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  • Ministers pressure police to ban pro-Palestine Armistice Day march
    The Deputy Prime Minister said he had 'grave concerns' about allowing a march to take place on November 11, after four police officers were injured by…
    www.dailymail.co.uk

    The discussion about the protests against the war in Israel seems to be across several threads, so can we try and use this topic please for all protest related discussion?

    And let's start off with a non-controversial aspect of this.... the planned march on Armistice Day. Should it go ahead?

  • the planned march on Armistice Day. Should it go ahead?

    No way should our remembrance for the sacrifices of our people be desecrated by these nutters. Throw them all in clink

    History is much like an Endless Waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.

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  • If the Hamas supporters want to have their Anti-Semitic march on Sunday, they should have it in a different part of London and at a time a few hours after the Armistice ceremony. Our respect for those who gave their lives fighting Hitler's Socialists should not be disrupted by modern socialists wishing to emulate the 3rd Reich in the murder of Jews.

    The Voice of Reason

  • Supposedly the march will be later in the day and in a different part of London, but we'll see.

    Does anyone think it's a little "odd" that they keep marching on this issue?

    Where have all the marches been against Putin's attack on Ukraine?

    The marchers only seem to be interested in one subject...

  • Activist who led 'from the river to the sea' chant is police adviser
    Lawyer Attiq Malik is the chairman of London Communities Forum - a 'strategic advisory body' for Scotland Yard which helps to 'shape police policy and…
    www.dailymail.co.uk

    I think the Mail must have a special department called "The Pot Stirring Dept"...

    So, one of these nuts is a police adviser and another one, who is directly employed by Scotland Yard, wants anyone who supports the war against Hamas to be done for incitement to hatred against Muslims.

    Says it all really, doesn't it?

  • More to the point can we really stop it. The protesters will most likely go ahead with it anyway and it will cause even more trouble and police resources and arrests because they have been told they are not allowed to go ahead with it. Better to have an organised march than a disorganised one. The gov are stirring for trouble here.

  • I agree with Nora allegedly the Protest Organisers have stated they will not go anywhere near Whitehall , as per usual the Met Police will organise the march itself, where they can gather and the route they must follow any that break away risk being arrested, where the March will end and time it ends.

    The Met and other Police Forces across the UK have lots of advisors especially in London, Manchester, Birmingham due to the diverse population , in London alone there are over 300 languages spoken in London Schools, different religions, customs, and values,

    Since these Protests began the Met have Lawyers/Barristers actually in the Mets Command Centre to advise the Officers on the ground what Offences are being committed by some of the crowd, due to the changes and additions recently put in place , in the Crime and Disorder Act, and Public Order Act, which the Police themselves are not sure about.

    Personally I think some may well try and disrupt Armistice Day , I also think Stop Oil may well try as well

  • According to the media today the Met Police arrested 29 people on Saturday , six have been charged so far

    Police commander Karen Findlay said: “While the vast majority of people demonstrated peacefully, there were various breakaway groups whose behaviour was completely unacceptable, our response was quick and decisive.

    “Our officers have been working tirelessly to deal with the 29 individuals arrested yesterday, with six of those now charged and set to appear in court. four of those arrested yesterday evening have been referred to their local youth offending teams. some were arrested for Terrorism Offences and breaching a dispersal order, four officers were injured by fireworks thrown at them..

  • The Met have been busy again today this time with Just Stop Oil Protesters, they arrested 100 of them, plus two more

    Two climate change protesters smashed a protective glass panel covering a famous Diego Velázquez oil painting at London's National Gallery, the group Just Stop Oil said Monday.

    The two activists targeted Velázquez's “The Toilet of Venus,” also known as “The Rokeby Venus," with small hammers. Photos showed the protective glass panel punctured with several holes.

  • It doesn't matter what protest takes place, there is always some L/W thugs who want to disrupt society and cause damage. They should be PUNISHED ! instead they get a slap on the wrist and are able to go on the streets again and again..

    The Voice of Reason

  • More to the point can we really stop it. The protesters will most likely go ahead with it anyway and it will cause even more trouble and police resources and arrests because they have been told they are not allowed to go ahead with it. Better to have an organised march than a disorganised one. The gov are stirring for trouble here.

    But how long should these protests go on for? Indefinitely?

    We cannot be held hostage (not such a good pun...) by these protesters. They've made their point, now they need to go back to their normal business, whatever that maybe.

  • Now it comes to light why the Met are taking a softly softly approach to the pro Palestinian demonstrations .

    They have been taking advice from lawyer Attiq Malik he was actually an adviser inside a Met police operation room Despite having been involved in a number of legal cases against the police, and reportedly calling for Prevent, the government’s anti-extremism programme, to be axed.

    The *Telegraph* has also revealed that Mohammed Kozbar, a prominent mosque chairman who is said (according to a recent House of Lords debate) to have praised the founder of Hamas, has been advising the Crown Prosecution Service] as part of a ‘scrutiny panel’ on hate crime.

    Kozbar is chairman of the Finsbury Park mosque and vice President to the Muslim Council of Britain .

  • Now it comes to light why the Met are taking a softly softly approach to the pro Palestinian demonstrations .

    They have been taking advice from lawyer Attiq Malik he was actually an adviser inside a Met police operation room Despite having been involved in a number of legal cases against the police, and reportedly calling for Prevent, the government’s anti-extremism programme, to be axed.

    The *Telegraph* has also revealed that Mohammed Kozbar, a prominent mosque chairman who is said (according to a recent House of Lords debate) to have praised the founder of Hamas, has been advising the Crown Prosecution Service] as part of a ‘scrutiny panel’ on hate crime.

    Kozbar is chairman of the Finsbury Park mosque and vice President to the Muslim Council of Britain .

    The Police have many advisors from various groups within the Community have done for years , some with very strong views Malik is a Defence Lawyer hence he represented people bringing cases against the Police.

    He IMHO should have been kicked into touch two years ago by the Met, it matters not that he was in the Control Room he would not make any decisions on what the Police were doing on the ground, the Met also had CPS Prosecution Lawyers/Barristers in the Control Room for these Protests to clarify what Offences are taking place to avoid unlawful arrests

  • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…hate-crime.html

    I think the Mail must have a special department called "The Pot Stirring Dept"...

    So, one of these nuts is a police adviser and another one, who is directly employed by Scotland Yard, wants anyone who supports the war against Hamas to be done for incitement to hatred against Muslims.

    Says it all really, doesn't it?

    Ideological capture of the institutions…

    Repressive Tolerance (again)

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

  • The Police have many advisors from various groups within the Community have done for years , some with very strong views Malik is a Defence Lawyer hence he represented people bringing cases against the Police.

    He IMHO should have been kicked into touch two years ago by the Met, it matters not that he was in the Control Room he would not make any decisions on what the Police were doing on the ground, the Met also had CPS Prosecution Lawyers/Barristers in the Control Room for these Protests to clarify what Offences are taking place to avoid unlawful arrests

    No but they got that stupid interpretation of jihad from somewhere .

    I doubt your average plod is versed in the nuances of the Arabic language

    ( not your average dumbo demonstrater either ,)

    Jihad does mean struggle but it’s all about context .

    It’s certainly doesn’t mean inner struggle when you are screaming down the streets waving flags it means Holy war

  • I think the government and the police will embarrass themselves if they try to prevent the march, because they will go ahead whatever.

    They just need to keep the two events separate. Simples.

  • No but they got that stupid interpretation of jihad from somewhere .

    That was put out to try to silence the criticism that they allowed hate crime and support of a proscribed group go on right under their noses. It was a classic piece of redefining the meaning of words away from what we would consider the generally understood meaning. You what that that is though don’t you?

    Yep, it’s repressive tolerance (or Marxism) within our institutions

    Celebrate it, Anticipate it, Yesterday's faded, Nothing can change it, Life's what you make it

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