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The TV media's position is in full flow as bleeding heart liberals, oozing empathy for desperate illegal immigrants fleeing from a hell on earth or annihilation.
A load of people have died, so some empathy is warranted. They are human beings who suffered a horrific death.
The hell-on-earth madbuggerdom which characterises the Middle East is not of our making. The ME inhabitants will blame it on Western oil-influenced geo-politics - as if without that they would be the ultimate advanced civilisation!
No, that region isn't all our fault, but we bare a enormous amount of responsibility. When Saddam was kicking about, where was ISIS? Nowehere is the reply until our "meddling." And as our Iranian member has posted, Persian culture is thousands of years old and while many in the region were building cities, we were still in caves. However, the extreme militant form of Islam is all their doing.
We can't bring ourselves to slaughter the whole lot of them
I may well have aired such an extreme point of view myself at some point. It does make you wonder how the rest of the world would be if the region was simply nuked, but could we really justify murdering millions of innocent people just to make our lives a little bit easier?
The more we try to help them with refugee camps, food, medicine and shelter, the longer it will take them to kill one another, prolonging indefinitely that critical point of being on the edge of death where they just might possibly be compelled to find a self-survive-and-live plan.
You paint everyone with the same brush.
Lets take out the Saudi royal family and their Wahhabi supporters. Lets take out Assad. Lets start with that. Kill those at the top of this evil chain and it may, may help the innocents at least until more evil creatures fill the void.
All that's left is not to let them in to Europe. Charity is one thing. Accommodating those who are shitting on their own doorstep is quite another thing. Accommodating those who resent us for them being in that desperate position, giving them all the excuse needed to be current or latent terrorists, is just plain nuts.
The solution is simple. Keep them out of our world. Those that sneak in will be put into a refugee prison (not a help centre) and will remain there on survival rations for the rest of their lives or, if they prefer, taken by a cargo ship to within dingy reach of the country from which they originally fled or decided to go in search of greener pastures (a very fine distinction, neither of which is acceptable or gives them any "rights"). As for social benefit for health, housing, employment, child welfare, family allowance, etc, the answer is zilch. Occasionally, some refugees will be invited into Britain if they have the characteristics of becoming valued and trusted citizens but this will be a tiny single figure percentage.
Bottom line, these wretched people can either (a) die in captivity in Britain or (b) find stupid country that will take them in or (c) die in their country of origin or (d) find a find a way to live and let live in their country of origin. There is no other choice. Trump understands that. So do many other people but they daren't say so. And because they daren't say so, they daren't do so. That's why Douglas Murray wrote "The Strange Death of Europe".
Ok... hope you got that off your chest. This is what I would do:
If we had a real United Nations, we could set up safe zones in war torn countries or in counties close to war zones and provide safety, shelter and food there. Although it would have to be something a lot better than what was attempted in Bosnia by the Dutch peacekeepers during the wars in the 90s. As we don't have a proper UN, this responsibility should fall on the wealthy democratic nations like ourselves. These commitments should be for as long ass it takes, probably many decades worth. And to be clear, it just to protect innocents, not nation building or meddling in internal ethic/religious rivalries.
As for economic migrants, I've no idea how to resolve that one. We need to invest in Africa, Asia, South America, especially help with getting as many women educated as possible. In time, that these places will improve by themselves hopefully, but we need to be cautious about meddling in their internal affairs too much though, otherwise it will only come back onto us in a bad way.
But as this latest story is about Chinese migrants which were found dead in the lorry, I don't know how to handle that one. China isn't war torn and many parts of it are rich, but nor is it a free country. If we lay down the welcome mat for all such migrants, we would get overwhelmed by them.