The Great Debate on Immigration

Quote from Armitage Shanks

The Union’s had to be crushed after they were given too much influence under Socialist Labour in the 70s.

I think that the dismantling and destruction of the mining industry was wrong though.

Labour actually closed more pits that the Tories did , seams were running out, low grade coal totally uneconomical to run the taxpayers were propping up many Mines, the demand for coal was also decreasing across the UK , Steam Trains were gone most factories ran on power provided buy oil not coal.

Clean Air Act came in many home no longer burned coal, I am from the North my part of the world was mainly Cotton Mills so was Yorkshire or Wool they all went due to cheap imports from overseas more mill workers lost their jobs than Miners , our car industry plagued by strikes organises by Red Dobbo hand the car industry to Asia on on a platter.

Many factories were overmanned closed shops, out of date machinery that Unions refused to allow any changes , Unions never create jobs, but by hell they destroyed a lot of them over the years

Quote from Armitage Shanks

The Union’s had to be crushed after they were given too much influence under Socialist Labour in the 70s.

I think that the dismantling and destruction of the mining industry was wrong though.

Quote from mike murphy

The person to blame for the miner's crisis was Scargill.

That's not how the mining towns see it including those who where growing up and the consequences of poverty and lack of jobs because of the mines closing.

Quote from Norra Batty

That's not how the mining towns see it including those who where growing up and the consequences of poverty and lack of jobs because of the mines closing.

The mines had to close. They were unprofitable and were impoverishing us.

I feel sorry for the miners who were left without a job, some of whom never found work again. There was no real alternative though, and Labour would have had to bite the bullet in the end if they were in power at the time.

I agree there was no way they could have kept going , yes it was not a good time for some of my relatives who were Miners in the North East , same for all the Mill workers in the North who lost their jobs due to cheap imports they outnumbered the Miners , it took a long time for my home town to recover

Quote from Armitage Shanks

I think you would be talking about the Farage led UKIP or Brexit Parties. Obviously after Farage stood down the wheels came off and they became a bit nutty.

Farage seems to have a reasonable view on most key issues.

I agree with you, Farage 's views on politics are the closest thing we have to common sense. Unfortunately the power the main parties manage to convince the voter that he is a force for all evil.

Quote from Fred

I agree there was no way they could have kept going , yes it was not a good time for some of my relatives who were Miners in the North East , same for all the Mill workers in the North who lost their jobs due to cheap imports they outnumbered the Miners , it took a long time for my home town to recover

Did you know Harold Wilson closed far more pits than Maggie did. He got away with it because he represented the Labour party, and bowed down to all the union's requests.

Yes

Quote from Bibbles

I agree with you, Farage 's views on politics are the closest thing we have to common sense. Unfortunately the power the main parties manage to convince the voter that he is a force for all evil.

I think you could call it self preservation. If Farage took power in the UK it would be the equivalent of the Trump effect in the US. The combination of the legacy mainstream media and the mainstream opposition parties would do whatever it took to bring him down.

Former RAF Linton-on-Ouse to become asylum centre

The centre at Linton-on-Ouse will cut the cost of housing migrants in hotels, the government says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Residents up in arms over 1500 men sent to camp where they are allowed to walk around freely in town. So it's like an open prison with day release. I wonder how many will disappear into society and never come back. How many did they send to Rwanda.....was it 5 they advertised last week as the first to be sent. We are still have 100's everyday arriving and being sent or disappearing into the UK towns and villages. Rwanda is just a publicity stunt by the sounds of it to win votes and gain some support.

Migrants sent to York­shire in weeks des­pite res­id­ents’ anger | The Times

The Home Office is aim­ing to move at least 50 migrants into a recep­tion centre in a North York­shire vil­lage by the end of the month des­pite huge local…

epaper.thetimes.co.uk

We do live in exciting times

Quote from Armitage Shanks

I think you could call it self preservation. If Farage took power in the UK it would be the equivalent of the Trump effect in the US. The combination of the legacy mainstream media and the mainstream opposition parties would do whatever it took to bring him down.

However loud the media and Opposition shout out, the voice of the people is louder.

The Brexiteers proved that!

I agree this is a Democratic Country after all the votes were counted the majority voted to leave the EU, sadly some only agree with democracy when they get the result they wanted, I waited decades for that referendum

We need Boris to stop being the nice guy and tell the EU that they're way off beam with their attempt to destroy the integrity of the UK. Also to tell Southern Ireland to wing their necks in and stop interfering with UK policies. And while he's at it, he can tell Biden to book into a geriatric home for the aged and stop trying to control the UK.

It's time our political leaders stood up for the UK and put our country first and foremost.

Quote from mike murphy

It's time our political leaders stood up for the UK and put our country first and foremost.

Amen to that.

Quote from mike murphy

We need Boris to stop being the nice guy and tell the EU that they're way off beam with their attempt to destroy the integrity of the UK. Also to tell Southern Ireland to wing their necks in and stop interfering with UK policies. And while he's at it, he can tell Biden to book into a geriatric home for the aged and stop trying to control the UK.

It's time our political leaders stood up for the UK and put our country first and foremost.

Hyenas always look for easy pickings. That’s what the Hyenas in the EU, Ireland and US see us as these days. Biden thinks he’s Irish so is anti UK. Like most Democrats he’s just shit stirring scum.