The Great Debate on Immigration

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  • Well, there’s plenty of people in this country who believe that Moses returned from a mountain having spoken to God through a burning bush.


    Would you believe that if you read such a story in your newspaper of choice?

    From website " Straight Dope"


    When asked about the Burning Bush that Moses saw and God spoke to him, devote Christians think God did , however according to Botanists


    there are plants that have adapted to fire in various ways. The cones of several species of pine, for example, are serotinous — that is, they open only when exposed to extremely high temperature, making fire an essential part of the reproductive process. (Bruce Springsteen once wrote a song about this.) The fire has to be of external origin, though — the pines don’t torch themselves.


    It’s possible some other plants eliminate the middleman. The leading candidate is Dictamnus albus, a flowering shrub that grows to a height of about two feet.


    Native to a wide swath of Europe and Asia, including Israel, it’s commonly called “fraxinella,” “dittany,” and, more pertinently for our story, “gas plant” and “burning bush.”


    On warm days D. albus exudes vapor that readily ignites if you hold a match to it, and some say it ignites all by itself if the sun is hot enough.


    But — here’s where things start to get biblical — the vapor burns so quickly that it doesn’t consume or even damage the plant.


    This naturally brings to mind Exodus 3:2: “And the angel of the Lord appeared unto [Moses] in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.”


    So D. albus is Moses’s burning bush, right? Many biblical commentators think so (or at least they think the bush was a spontaneously combusting plant)


    It may have been an act of God, or Mother Nature who knows for certain,

  • Er, yes, I believe the burning bush bit. 😂


    But in my experience, burning bushes do not also harbour gods.

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  • Maybe he was stoned, it's said he was given tablets 🤷🤣🤣

    Do unto others as they would do unto you, then f**k off before the Police get there. :saint:

  • According to the media he stated he would allow 100,000 to come here , where he is going to put them who knows

    To put things into proportion that is four average sized towns worth of people

    The intelligent are being oppressed so the stupid don't get offended

  • The Government IMHO would have consulted their Legal Department before they embarked on it , they would not have done so if they had been told it was not legal to do so, it is only at the last knockings the Supreme Court have ruled it cannot be done due to HRHC basically overruling Parliaments Sovereignty

    Clearly they didn’t, Braverman is saying that it was never going to succeed under the current legal framework.

    Yet they carried on for many months

    Rwanda was a populist stunt from a government with zero integrity

  • Clearly they didn’t, Braverman is saying that it was never going to succeed under the current legal framework.

    Yet they carried on for many months

    Rwanda was a populist stunt from a government with zero integrity

    Yes populist, it's dreadful for a government to attempt to carry out a policy that may prove popular. I still believe this may actually happen, watch this space

    The intelligent are being oppressed so the stupid don't get offended

  • To put things into proportion that is four average sized towns worth of people

    Plus the boats, which will still keep rolling in.

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  • On the news today --- See :-

    Asylum seekers housed at refurbished army barracks protest over 'prison-like' conditions - saying it's 'too cold' and doesn't have the internet
    About 40 men demonstrated outside MDP Wethersfield in Essex, complaining they didn't have access to doctors and were freezing due to poor clothing and bedding.
    www.msn.com


    If they don't like the UK why did they come here... Why don't they F*** off back to where they came from. We don't want them here.

    The Voice of Reason

  • Clearly they didn’t, Braverman is saying that it was never going to succeed under the current legal framework.

    Yet they carried on for many months

    Rwanda was a populist stunt from a government with zero integrity

    Wrong our Government have done nothing illegal at all, the Bill went through the due legal process in the House of Commons then the Lords back to the Commons for its final third hearing then to the King for Royal approval, normal Legal procedure which has been in place for years and years


    Then the Left Human Rights Lawyers objected to the Bill and put it before the Court of Appeal for all the Legal wrangling, then it went to our Supreme Court put in place by Bliar and Labour a Court IMO we do not need, then a Foreign Court intervened


    They basically said we do not approve of this action the UK Government has put in place we do not agree with it we don't want it to happen and the Supreme Court, kiss their arse and ruled our Government, in other words a Foreign Court undermined the Sovereignty of our elected Government.


    Hence Sunak is now drafting another Bill which no Foreign Court can block

  • Yes populist, it's dreadful for a government to attempt to carry out a policy that may prove popular. I still believe this may actually happen, watch this space

    It’s dreadful for a government to carry out a policy that is illegal

  • It’s dreadful for a government to carry out a policy that is illegal

    What policy is illegal?

    Do unto others as they would do unto you, then f**k off before the Police get there. :saint:

  • the policy is NOT illegal, the sending to a 3rd country was deemed legal, sending to Rwanda at this moment in time would be illegal, but since no one has gone there is no illegality.

    Do unto others as they would do unto you, then f**k off before the Police get there. :saint:

  • the policy is NOT illegal, the sending to a 3rd voluntary was deemed legal, sending to Rwanda at this moment in time would be illegal, but since no one has gone there is no illegality.

    Your splitting hairs CL .

  • No I'm not, read the supreme court judgement

    Do unto others as they would do unto you, then f**k off before the Police get there. :saint:

  • The government is abiding by the judgement of the court, and therefore it had done nothing illegal at all.

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  • The government is abiding by the judgement of the court, and therefore it had done nothing illegal at all.

    It has been proposing something it has clearly been advised was unlawful

    It has known this for sometime yet it has persisted.

    The Conservative Party says it is the party of law & order , well no more

    Maggie will be turning in her grave

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