Pope says we should live simpler lives, should we?

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  • The Pope makes a good point but where his suggestion of removing materialism and leading a more simplistic life falls down is where capitalism is still in place. By simplistic life I think he is suggesting a more religious way of life, simplistic like a monastic lifestyle which TBH would not be a bad thing if we could remove the god and worshipping stuff out of it. Become more self sufficient and only produce what is required to live. What else do we need. Hey...some monasteries even produce their own Ale. It can't be all bad.

  • The Pope makes a good point but where his suggestion of removing materialism and leading a more simplistic life falls down is where capitalism is still in place. By simplistic life I think he is suggesting a more religious way of life, simplistic like a monastic lifestyle which TBH would not be a bad thing if we could remove the god and worshipping stuff out of it. Become more self sufficient and only produce what is required to live. What else do we need. Hey...some monasteries even produce their own Ale. It can't be all bad.

    There are too many of us we can’t be self sufficient many people don’t even have gardens to grow a few veggies .

  • The Catholic Church is already the biggest charitable organisation in the world . It’s doesn’t distinguish by religion it’s hospitals treat all comers and it’s schools also allow in people ie in the Middle East of people from other faiths . People whatever their religion like a Catholic education for their children.

    https://usa.inquirer.net/15692…t-charitable-organization

    There are many ways of measuring how big a charitable organisation is. Certainly, the Catholic Church is big, but there are some other pretty serious players involved


    List Of Wealthiest Charitable Foundations


    This list is based on the amount of endowments, which is money invested in perpetuity, which makes a profit and that profit is put to charitable donations. The endowment remains, ensuring there is a steady flow of money year after year.


    There are many ways of being charitable. To blandly say that this or that is "The Biggest" highly contestable.


    As for the beneficence of the Roman Catholic Church....... well........ the Catholic church took a dogmatic position on the issue of homosexual adoption after the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act was amended to remove the "Need For A Father" clause. Catholic adoption agencies refused to comply with the law and continued to discriminate against gay and lesbian couples. They lost their court cases and had to close.


    Last Catholic Adoption Agency In UK To Close


    This was a case where the Catholic Church directly discriminated against a group of people on religious grounds, as distinct from religious belief. A lot of Catholics might have applied to adopt through the Catholic Adoption Agencies and would have been refused help on the sole grounds of their homosexuality.


    You could argue that it's the fault of gay people who want to adopt children. That depends on your view of gay people. But the church had it within its power to amend its rules and refused to do so. The church brought itself into conflict with the state, not the other way around.


    Discrimination, like charitable donation, comes in many forms.


    By the way........ I was brought up in the Catholic faith and went to a Roman Catholic Primary School. I know how the system works. Technically, I'm still a Catholic, but no longer have anything to do with the church.

    Old Boy said: "Britain will have a trade deal with USA by the end of this year".

  • The Pope makes a good point but where his suggestion of removing materialism and leading a more simplistic life falls down is where capitalism is still in place. By simplistic life I think he is suggesting a more religious way of life, simplistic like a monastic lifestyle which TBH would not be a bad thing if we could remove the god and worshipping stuff out of it. Become more self sufficient and only produce what is required to live. What else do we need. Hey...some monasteries even produce their own Ale. It can't be all bad.

    There’s nothing to stop you from doing that, Norra, but I think the majority of us would pass!

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  • It is possible to live a "simpler" life without going to live in a yurt and subsist on a diet of lentils.


    The key word is "moderation". We all want to live in a comfortable home.... drive a little car..... take a holiday...... have some nice things. These are not unreasonable aspirations and are well within the scope of the vast majority of people.


    We can achieve most of our aspirations without having to do vast damage to natural resources. Have solar panels installed to reduce reliance on generated electricty.... move to an electric - or at least, a hybrid - vehicle. Use a bicycle when feasible. Recycle more. All very easy things to do and within the reach of ordinary people.


    Unfortunately (for capitalists), restraining our spending won't make capitalists rich. And so they use the power of advertising to exhort us to buy things we don't really need. We can cook our own food at home. Do we need to send out so Deliveroo can bring artery clogging junk food to our doorstep...? Do we need to that new EE mobile phone that a smirking Kevin Bacon tells us we will be mocked and ridiculed with "Network Envy" if we don't have...?


    Much of the things that are doing so much damage - not only to the environment, but also to our social fabric - are the product of wanting and striving for things we don't actually need just because they are pumped at us relentlessly day after day.


    Perhaps this sort of marketing pressure can't be legislated against, or regulated. But we can practice self restraint. Actually, no, I don't want "Street Food" with a 30% delivery charge chucked on top of the price. I'm quite capable of cooking our own food......... and its far better food than the shite that comes in a carrier bag off the back of a moped.


    The answer to living a simpler life lies within ourselves.

    Old Boy said: "Britain will have a trade deal with USA by the end of this year".

  • Electric vehicles is a con to make us spend more money. The oil industry is moving towards dredging the oceans for the resources to make batteries and what is going to power all the charging sockets. What would be good is if we could extract the methane from Siberia and use that as an energy source. The power of farts. Any old fart will do. LOL

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