Posts by jj20x

    True, but that doesn't take away from the fact that pay per view services without subscriptions already exist.


    Incidentally, you may be interested to know that the new Roku TV channel launched today in the UK. Not PPV but AVOD - no subscription and supported by advertisements.

    Oh it has The Lucy Show, who wouldn't want to have a streamer carrying The Lucy Show? :D:D

    Summary table of recent changes:


    Date TSID (Old) SID New SID (Old) EPG New EPG (Old) SID Name
    (EPG Name)
    New SID Name
    (EPG Name)
    (Old) Genre Flag New Genre Flag Flags Added Flags Removed Notes
    06/04/2020 12 1222 -
    33 832 Channel Update
    (Ch Update)
    France 24 (Fench) HD
    (F24 Fr HD)
    Lifestyle International HD Hidden Information slate
    06/04/2020 24 2405 2455 832 28 France 24 (French) HD
    (F24 Fr HD)
    France 24 Fr HD OLD
    (F24FrHdOLD)
    International -Hidden
    EndOfService
    Placeholder
      Service closed on VM
    06/04/2020 34 3402 -406 -Sky Family HD
    (SkyFamilyHD)
    -Movies -PIN Access   PIN Access flag added
    07/04/2020 12 1222 -832 -France 24 (Fench) HD
    (F24 Fr HD)
    Channel Update
    (Ch Update)
    International -
        Reverted to original SID Name

    Which probably means we will not find any signs of Disney + or any other streaming service launched in the future by this method.


    It seems to me (but correct me if I'm wrong) that the real value of the scans is to indicate possible channel changes coming. It's all very vague though, and VM seem to play games with us to throw us off the scent!

    Usually, the first sign of a new streaming service being added is VM adding an EPG linked promo slate. So, the scans have usually been the first indication of a new streaming service. As happened with prime Video, hayu and the Desi streamers.


    Removal of these services is another matter, VM simply change the image on the video slate to announce the closure. Nothing will show up on the scans until the video slate and encryption pack codes are removed. Don't hold your breath for the removal of the encryption pack codes, VM can take a while with that sort of thing.


    Is it a good sign that, with new streamers popping up all the time, VM is actually removing existing streamers such as hayu? The new ones just don't seem to be getting added.

    The overnight scan showed that VM has corrected the spelling error noted yesterday, not by actually using the correct spelling but by changing the service name of SID 1222 back to "Channel Update".


    It is worth noting that the "hayu" app was removed on Monday (April 6th). As far as the scans are concerned, there hasn't been a change recorded for this. The static video "promo" slate has been updated to reflect the closure, as has the EPG data.

    There were changes overnight, largely centred around the closure of France 24 (French) HD.


    SID 2405 France 24 (French) HD moved to placeholder SID 2455 with a new name of France 24 Fr HD OLD.

    SID 1222 Channel Update became France 24 (Fench) HD - pity they can't spell French. ^^


    SID 3402 Sky Family HD gained the PIN access flag. Presumably for when Sky Cinema decides to show films unsuitable for family viewing before the watershed on Sky erm.. Family HD. :rolleyes: - Traditionally, channels such as Sky Family and Sky Disney haven't carried this flag.


    As far as I know, there was a problem with updating the summaries overnight with some info not showing up. I had a look at it earlier and the information that wasn't supposed to be there was there, so we'll see how that goes over the next few days.


    More detailed info will follow (at some point).

    With the analysis brought up to date, the analysts will shortly move on to archiving the February and March data.


    Going forward, a schedule has been drawn up for batch processing the detailed analysis with certain trigger events prompting a batch analysis (e.g. a second rebrand of a channel within the scheduling period will prompt a batch analysis of all data up to the day before the rebrand, the date of the second rebrand would then start a new scheduling period).


    This means that a detailed analysis won't be available for a daily update on this thread. For the moment, I will update the thread from the scanners logs, which are now quite detailed but don't provide details such as channel numbers. Where appropriate, the scanners or the analysts will also complete the first level of data extraction and analysis, which does provide more data such as channel numbers and unique serial numbers. Hopefully, that will provide enough information to keep the reports updated. There isn't another option at the moment with the limited number of scanners and analysts available.

    For those who prefer to see the current "free to view" channels in channel number order:


    EPG SID Name TSID SID
    124 GOLD HD 30 3005
    125 W 2 209
    132 Comedy Central HD 28 2802
    133 Comedy Central +1 7 715
    134 MTV HD 25 2506
    145 E4 HD 29 2904
    157 FOX 5 524
    158 FOX+1 7 723
    167 TLC HD 34 3406
    168 I.D. 5 501
    171 DMAX 5 508
    172 TLC+1 5 509
    173 I.D.+1 5 511
    181 Comedy Central 5 523
    183 MTV 4 401
    190 W +1 11 1107
    194 GOLD +1 3 307
    195 More 4 HD 20 2005
    199 FOX HD 29 2902
    208 Lifetime HD 31 3104
    211 W HD 33 3304
    214 DMAX + 1 5 504
    227 Dave HD 33 3303
    250 Discovery HD 31 3102
    258 Discovery Chan +1 3 304
    336 Box Hits 5 518
    338 Kiss 5 519
    340 Magic 5 521
    342 Kerrang 5 517
    415 Turner Classic Movies 7 720
    416 TCM HD 28 2804
    417 TCM +1 10 1018
    429 Film4 HD 27 2702
    704 Cartoon Network 4 425
    705 Cartoon Network +1 8 825
    706 Cartoonito 5 525
    712 Nickelodeon 7 710
    713 Nick +1 7 708
    714 Nick HD 25 2505
    715 Nick Junior 7 705
    716 Nick Jr Too 7 703
    717 Nicktoons 7 709
    730 Boomerang 4 418
    731 Boomerang +1 4 419
    732 Cartoon Network HD 34 3404
    807 SONY SAB 5 513
    826 COLORS 2 223
    827 Colors Rishtey 7 716
    828 Colors Cineplex 2 218

    Bringing everything else up to date. There will possible be some duplication of anything posted at the beginning of March.


    The rebrands:


    Date TSID SID EPG Previous Service Name Previous EPG Name New Service Name New EPG Name
    02/03/2020 32 3203 410 Sky Drama HD SkyDramaHD Sky Women In Film HD WmenFilmHD
    02/03/2020 34 3402 406 Sky Family HD SkyFamilyHD Sky Kid Books HD KidBooksHD
    05/03/2020 1 10010 0 DL_Sam_TiVoSBE_10010 DL_SamTSBE DL_Sam_TiVoBL_10010 DL_SamTBL
    07/03/2020 30 3003 411 Sky SciFi & Hor HD SkySciFiHD Sky Monsters HD SkyMnstrHD
    09/03/2020 11 1110 515 Sky Sports Golf SkySp Golf Sky The Players SkyPlayers
    09/03/2020 23 2307 505 Sky Sports Golf HD SkyGolfHD Sky The Players HD PlayersHD
    09/03/2020 32 3203 410 Sky Women In Film HD WmenFilmHD Sky Drama HD SkyDramaHD
    09/03/2020 34 3402 406 Sky Kid Books HD KidBooksHD Sky Family HD SkyFamilyHD
    17/03/2020 11 1110 515 Sky The Players SkyPlayers Sky Sports Golf SkySp Golf
    17/03/2020 23 2307 505 Sky The Players HD PlayersHD Sky Sports Golf HD SkyGolfHD
    20/03/2020 32 3202 402 Sky Superheroes HD SkyHero HD Sky Animation HD AnimationHD
    23/03/2020 30 3003 411 Sky Monsters HD SkyMnstrHD Sky SciFi & Hor HD SkySciFiHD
    23/03/2020 32 3202 402 Sky Animation HD AnimationHD Sky Superheroes HD HeroesHD
    27/03/2020 30 3004 404 Sky Greats HD GreatsHD Sky Musicals HD MusicalsHD
    28/03/2020 20 2002 407 Sky Action HD SkyActnHD Sky Star Wars HD StarWarsHD
    01/04/2020 4 407 316 MTV 80s MTV 80s MTV Classic MTV Classic
    01/04/2020 7 703 716 Nick Jr Too NickJrToo Nick Jr. Peppa NJr. Peppa
    04/04/2020 32 3202 402 Sky Superheroes HD HeroesHD Sky Select HD SkySelctHD



    The new services:


    Date Serial ID TSID SID EPG Service Name EPG Name Genre Flag EPG Flags Subscription Pack Flags Testing on internal networks Notes
    18/03/2020 2123 18 1802 666 HZNFATST HZNFATST see earlier post see earlier post see earlier post VM Hammersmith Testing on additional internal network.
    18/03/2020 2124 4 416 642 Channel A SD ChannelASD Documentaries Broadcast
    Hidden
    Sky1
    Sky2
    Segment not yet added TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) & Code Download Test (Portsmouth) added 19/03/2020 New services testing
    18/03/2020 2126 5 522 644 Channel B SD ChannelBSD Documentaries Broadcast
    Hidden
    Sky1
    Sky2
    Segment not yet added
    18/03/2020 2127 20 2006 643 Channel B HD ChannelBHD Documentaries Broadcast
    Hidden
    Sky1
    HD
    Sky2
    Chan & Pack Override added 31/03/2020
    18/03/2020 2125 25 2507 641 Channel A HD ChannelAHD Documentaries Broadcast
    Hidden
    Sky1
    HD
    Sky2
    Chan & Pack Override added 31/03/2020



    The housekeeping changes:


    Date TSID Old SID New SID SID Name Notes
    18/03/2020 5 522 550 Box Upfront Moved to placeholder SID
    18/03/2020 20 2006 2050 ZooMoo HD Moved to placeholder SID


    The conditional access mode flag in the SDT root was changed to "not encrypted" for ZooMoo HD.



    The free to view periods:


    Date TSID SID EPG SID Name Channel Code Pack Codes Added Notes
    23/03/2020 4 418 730 Boomerang Override added M/Player, More Free To View Period
    23/03/2020 4 419 731 Boomerang +1 Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 4 425 704 Cartoon Network Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 5 525 706 Cartoonito Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 703 716 Nick Jr Too Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 705 715 Nick Junior Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 708 713 Nick +1 Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 709 717 Nicktoons Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 7 710 712 Nickelodeon Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 8 825 705 Cartoon Network +1 Override added M/Player, More
    23/03/2020 25 2505 714 Nick HD Override added M/Player, More, Mix, M+, L/Fun
    23/03/2020 34 3404 732 Cartoon Network HD Override added M/Player, More, Mix, M+, L/Fun
    23/03/2020 4 435   Kids Tier   L/Fun, XL/Fun House  


    Date TSID SID EPG SID Name Channel Code Pack Codes Added Notes
    03/04/2020 2 209 125 W Override added Override added Free To View Period
    03/04/2020 2 218 828 Colors Cineplex Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 2 223 826 COLORS Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 3 304 258 Discovery Chan +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 3 307 194 GOLD +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 4 401 183 MTV Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 501 168 I.D. Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 504 214 DMAX + 1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 508 171 DMAX Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 509 172 TLC+1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 511 173 I.D.+1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 513 807 SONY SAB Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 517 342 Kerrang Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 518 336 Box Hits Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 519 338 Kiss Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 521 340 Magic Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 523 181 Comedy Central Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 5 524 157 FOX Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 7 715 133 Comedy Central +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 7 716 827 Colors Rishtey Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 7 720 415 Turner Classic Movies Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 7 723 158 FOX+1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 10 1018 417 TCM +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 11 1107 190 W +1 Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 20 2005 195 More 4 HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 25 2506 134 MTV HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 27 2702 429 Film4 HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 28 2802 132 Comedy Central HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 28 2804 416 TCM HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 29 2902 199 FOX HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 29 2904 145 E4 HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 30 3005 124 GOLD HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 31 3102 250 Discovery HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 31 3104 208 Lifetime HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 33 3303 227 Dave HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 33 3304 211 W HD Override added Override added
    03/04/2020 34 3406 167 TLC HD Override added Override added

    Bringing the NIT Linkage tables up to date for April's changes to date:


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    02/04/2020 Brighton, & Preston 1 10071 10070>10072 0 255 Level 0 (Samsung - new) and level 255 (Cisco) - Not firmware updates
    10073 10076 1 1 Level 1 updates
                 
                 
    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/04/2020 Barnsley 2 & 4 10071 10070>10072 0 255 Level 0 (Samsung - new) and level 255 (Cisco) - Not firmware updates
    03/04/2020 Barnsley 2 10075>10073 10074>10076 1 1 Level 1 updates
    03/04/2020 Barnsley 1 & 4 (Sheffield), Knowsley 1 & 2, Preston 1, Bristol 1 & 2 (ex Aztec), Wolverhampton 1 & 2, Hayes, Edinburgh 1 (SCOTLAND), Liverpool TDN, Portsmouth, Poole, Brighton, Manchester 3, Leeds, Lewisham, & Southampton 10073 10076 1 1 Level 1 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/04/2020 Barnsley 1, Croydon, Hayes, TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE), VM Hammersmith, Portsmouth, Derby, Manchester 1, & Lewisham 10073 10076 3 3 Level 3 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/04/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) 10073 10076 4 4 Level 4 updates

    The earlier clue was in the word override. Override flags are for temporary changes. They would have changed it differently if it was a permanent change of tier for the relevant channel(s).

    The odd thing being that VM have not been using the pack override flag recently but adding extra pack codes, so this is a switch back to the earlier way of doing things. There are actually 2 "override" flags, one being the PSB flag and the ofter being FTV - this is the FTV version.

    Friday brought a lot of changes to subscription packs with the channel & pack override flags added to a lot of channels. Saturday brought more of the dreaded NIT linkage changes.


    Details to follow.


    For now, a quick list of the services with pack override flags, which should now be available to everyone:


    TSID SID Service Name
    2 209 W
    2 218 Colors Cineplex
    2 223 COLORS
    3 304 Discovery Chan +1
    3 307 GOLD +1
    4 401 MTV
    5 501 I.D.
    5 504 DMAX + 1
    5 508 DMAX
    5 509 TLC+1
    5 511 I.D.+1
    5 513 SONY SAB
    5 517 Kerrang
    5 518 Box Hits
    5 519 Kiss
    5 521 Magic
    5 523 Comedy Central
    5 524 FOX
    7 715 Comedy Central +1
    7 716 Colors Rishtey
    7 720 Turner Classic Movies
    7 723 FOX+1
    10 1018 TCM +1
    11 1107 W +1
    20 2005 More 4 HD
    25 2506 MTV HD
    27 2702 Film4 HD
    28 2802 Comedy Central HD
    28 2804 TCM HD
    29 2902 FOX HD
    29 2904 E4 HD
    30 3005 GOLD HD
    31 3102 Discovery HD
    31 3104 Lifetime HD
    33 3303 Dave HD
    33 3304 W HD
    34 3406 TLC HD

    Apparently, those who get BT Sport thrown in for 'free' are being credited with £9.25 a month if they pause it. At least we now know how much of our bill is attributed to this 'free' service. (If it's paused the channels are still viewable btw).


    I'd prefer them to permanently cut it off and reduce my bill accordingly.

    Hmmm, if it costs that much it really should be an optional add on. Thanks for that info.

    It wasn't a criticism, I am interested in the forthcoming changes that are coming down the line, but I find it difficult sometimes to work out the significance of the data provided. Hopefully, you will continue to draw out any enlightening information from your reports and point out its significance to us.

    The major significance of NIT linkage is when it shows Tivo firmware upgrades.


    Other levels of NIT linkage show other changes to original Tivo models but we don't look into the specifics of these as it isn't really a DVB-C change. So it's understandable that you can't make much sense of them, they are just an indication of changes having taken place to the Tivo "data". The V6 doesn't use this method to update but there will also be changes to V6 data made online and in parallel. So, it is what it is, just an indication of changes to the box data.


    As far as the V6 goes, there are a few basic "levels" that appear to be associated with this but the version number doesn't change so they are, possibly, only needed for initial setup. In this group, some of the streams used by these "levels" have different names. Until recently, one of the internal networks was using different criteria, possibly suggesting a test for something new.


    There is also the mysterious DL_Sam_TiVoBL_16MB_CM stream, again, only present on an internal network, in the same group as the V6 data but with different "level" - when this appeared, around a year ago, there was some chatter on discussion groups that this could be a V6 adapted to include an internal cable modem. There was some confusion last time I posted this, so I'll emphasize that this doesn't mean that the V6 models in current circulation can be used for this. The unique "level" number and the fact that the normal "TiVoBL" streams don't have multiple levels actually suggested a test with a prototype model. The caveat with this type of thing on VM is that VM doesn't always remove obsolete data. Even though this data suggests that there was some sort of test, it doesn't indicate that it was successful or that any tests are still ongoing.


    So, other than the Tivo firmware updates, much of this information is speculative. If you are interested in that sort of thing, feel free to read it but if it doesn't interest you, just skip over it. It's not the sort of information I would expect to be significant to everyone.

    I seem to recall JJ20X said in the past that app stuff doesn't show on scans, so they probably wouldn't provide any clues to Disney+ arriving, unless there's a Press Red to Launch channel launched, which there has been for other apps. The mysterious 2 SD and 2 HD channels we've been discussing here recently are probably some of the new Sky channels given their pack codes JJ20X mentioned, but specifics we don't know as the names they are labelled with are generic.


    Horizon software maybe difficult to spot on scans as V6 doesn't really show, just old Tivo as they operate slightly differently.


    I'm sure JJ20X will soon come along and show I've misunderstood something though. ^^

    We cross posted. :D


    I'm trying to post, update some data and keeping an eye out for the delivery man, so everything is taking longer than usual.

    Tivo updates, mainly the original version. Normally, not much happens other than a weekly update but for some reason VM seem to be on a spree. As they are changing the way this data is updated, the tables are getting quite complicated with too much info to comfortably display in a table.


    If it's gobbledegook to you, don't read it. This thread is for changes on the VM network, not for discussion of streamers. Streamers use apps and the internet rather than the DVB-C network, so won't show up here. There could be a clue if new streaming services link to the EPG but, in general, this isn't the thread for that.


    There is a possibility that a clue to the Horizon UI change will show up in this type of data but the V6 updates over the internet, so that's not guaranteed.

    Apologies for the tables being somewhat chaotic, with unmatched column widths. A limitation of the software I guess. I did try to keep all of the data in a single table but, as some fields have to be merged, the software wanted to list the data horizontally rather than vertically, making it impossible to read. Better, in the end, that the first attempt. Giving each network its own row created too much white space and made the data very difficult to follow.

    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    13/03/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) 10071 10072 0 255 Updates to level 0 (Samsung) and level 255 (Cisco) - Not firmware updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    13/03/2020 Barnsley 1, Knowsley 1-2, Bristol 1-2 (ex Aztec), Croydon, Hayes, Haringey, Liverpool TDN, VM Hammersmith, Portsmouth, Poole, Hersham, Derby, Manchester 1 & 3, Lewisham, & Southampton 10071 10070>10072 0 255 New level 0 (Samsung) and updates to level 255 (Cisco) - Not firmware updates

    Bristol 1 (ex Aztec) had a version number of zero for the level 255 (Cisco) update, which is unusual.


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    14/03/2020 Bristol 1 (ex Aztec) - 10072 - 255 Correction to version number


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    16/03/2020 Wolverhampton 2 10074 - 255 - Samsung level 255 - belated firmware update


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    18/03/2020 Hayes 10073>10071 10076>10072 3 3 Level 3 updates
    TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) NIT Linkage 3 Level 3 updates
    TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) NIT Linkage 4 Level 4 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    20/03/2020 Knowsley 1-2, Bristol 1-2 (ex Aztec), Liverpool TDN, Portsmouth, Poole, Manchester 3, & Southampton 10073 10076 1 1 Level 1 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    20/03/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) 10071>10073 10072>10076 3 3 Level 3 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    21/03/2020 Barnsley 1, Croydon, Hayes, VM Hammersmith, Portsmouth, Derby, Manchester 1 & Lewisham 10075>10073 10074>10076 3 3 Level 3 updates
    10073 10076
    10071>10073 10072>10076
    10075>10073 10074>10076
    10073 10076
    10073 10076
    10073 10076
    10073 10076


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    21/03/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) 10071>10073 10072>10076 4 4 Level 4 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    27/03/2020 Barnsley 1, Knowsley 1-2, Bristol 1-2 (ex Aztec), Wolverhampton 2, Croydon, Hayes, Edinburgh 1 (SCOTLAND), TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE), Haringey, Liverpool TDN, VM Hammersmith, Portsmouth, Poole, Hersham, Derby, Manchester 1 & 3, Leeds, Lewisham, & Southampton 10071 10072 0 0 Level 0 (Samsung) and level 255 (Cisco) - Not firmware updates - Level 0 (Samsung) new to Wolverhampton 2, Edinburgh 1 (SCOTLAND) & Leeds


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    27/03/2020 Barnsley 1, Knowsley 1-2, Bristol 1-2 (ex Aztec), Wolverhampton 2, Edinburgh 1 (SCOTLAND), Liverpool TDN, Portsmouth, Poole, Manchester 3, Leeds, Lewisham & Southampton 10073 10076 1 1 Level 1 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    27/03/2020 Barnsley 1, Croydon, Hayes, TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE), VM Hammersmith, Portsmouth, Derby, Manchester 1, & Lewisham 10073 10076 3 3 Level 3 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    27/03/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) 10073 10076 4 4 Level 3 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    27/03/2020 VM Hammersmith 10075>10074 10074>10069 255 0 Firmware level updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    28/03/2020 Wolverhampton 1 10071 10070>10072 0 255 Level 0 (Samsung - new) and level 255 (Cisco) - Not firmware updates
    10073 10076 1 1 Level 1 updates

    Bringing the NIT Linkage tables up to date - sorry for the length of this update:


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    25/02/2020 Barnsley 4, Knowsley 1, Preston 2, Basildon 1-4, Croydon, Barnsley 1 TRIALS, Carlisle, Liverpool TDN, Preston TDN, Crawley, Bromley, Derby, Norwich, & York (FF Leeds) 10071>10074 10072>10069 255 0 Firmware level updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    26/02/2020 Barnsley 1-3, Knowsley 2, Bristol 1-2 (ex Aztec), Barnsley 2 TRIALS, Southport, Manchester 1-3, Ashford, Leeds, Southampton 10071>10074 10072>10069 255 0 Firmware level updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    27/02/2020 Gateshead, Edinburgh 1 (SCOTLAND), Exeter, Plymouth, Seven Kings, & Stoke (FF Manchester) 10071>10074 10072>10069 255 0 Firmware level updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    28/02/2020 Wolverhampton 1, Dundee (Edinburgh 2 SCOTLAND), Perth (SCOTLAND), Falkirk (SCOTLAND), Poole, Watford, & Wearside 10071>10074 10072>10069 255 0 Firmware level updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    28/02/2020 Wolverhampton 2 - 10072>10069 n/a 0 Firmware level updates (Cisco only - no Samsung update)


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    02/03/2020 Preston 1, Hayes, Uddingston (SCOTLAND), Haringey, Portsmouth, Brighton, Hersham, & Peterborough 10071>10074 10072>10069 255 0 Firmware level updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/03/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE), NGRHEE Knowsley, NGRHEE Bromley, & Wrexham (FF Manchester) 10071>10074 10072>10069 255 0 Level 255 (Samsung) & Level 0 (Cisco) - Firmware level updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/03/2020 Wolverhampton TRIALS, Liverpool TDN TRIALS, Knowsley 1 TRIALS, Brighton TRIALS, Code Download Test (Portsmouth), Portsmouth TRIALS, TTA Bromley DMC (Bromley RHE), & Wolverhampton 2 - 10072>10069 - 0 Firmware level updates (No Samsung updates)


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/03/2020 NGRHEE Knowsley & NGRHEE Bromley - 10072>10069 - 1 Level 1 updates (Cisco only)


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    03/03/2020 Knowsley 1, Bristol 1 (ex Aztec), Wolverhampton 1, Croydon, Hayes, Edinburgh 1 (SCOTLAND), Uddingston (SCOTLAND), Birmingham 750, Liverpool TDN, Manchester 1-3, & Seven Kings 10071>10074 10072>10069 5 5 Level 5 updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    05/03/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) 10075>10071 10070>10072 255 0 Firmware level updates


    Date Region (ex-Telewest & ex-C&W regions only) Samsung SID Cisco SID Samsung Level Cisco Level Type
    05/03/2020 TTA Knowsley DMC (Hayes_RHE) 10010>10011 - 200 - Level 200 - V6? (Samsung only) - change Link SID stream only

    Capital Xtra is on a national multiplex as far as I remember, I think I can get it now. Maybe that was why.


    To be clear to anyone not familiar we're talking radio not TV in this instance.

    Right but it is mainly about the local radio licences which are for FM. For Communicorp it would have meant replacing a local, staffed, station with a feed from London for Capital Xtra and a possible 3 hour opt-out, although the opt-outs aren't always required for regional stations. The type of service (content / demographic) offered would have been significantly different and Ofcom actually said no for once. It will be interesting to see how this now plays out. Maybe they should show their teeth more often when dealing with the local TV stations.


    I have considered setting up a radio thread, or several threads. We really are in strange times and the moves by Global/Communicorp/Quidem on the one hand and Bauer and possibly Nation on the other hand are changing the face of radio, pretty much bringing an end to local radio. There are now only a handful of independents left, how long they will stay that way remains to be seen. Now isn't really the time to start a new thread as the covid-19 situation will, inevitably, slow down any planned changes.

    I thought I had posted it too, I saw something that reminded me. There was quite a bit of info from Ofcom about various things, they still seem to be fairly busy. They have rejected Communicorp's request to replace XS Manchester with a relay of Capital Xtra, very unusual as they seem to have been approving everything recently, did they suddenly find their teeth?


    The remaining changes are Winter Hill, Moel-Y-Parc and a few changes to the "West Borders" & Isle of Man areas - basically the North West.

    Yes, that was what I originally thought MB was referring to. I guess they don't need both.

    I suppose that depends on the viewing figures for France 24 in French.


    It's a change of policy. Not long ago VM added an app to stream foreign language services to the platform. The quality of some of the services was dire and it was eventually removed. TV5Monde has been removed and now France 24, so a move away from providing services in other languages.


    It would be nice to have more international news channels, in English and in their native languages made available on the platform but, I guess, that won't be happening in the near future.

    The overnight scan shows that very basic conditional access channel and subscription pack segments have been added to the SDT for Channel A HD & Channel B HD. So far nothing for the SD versions. In the channel code segment, no channel codes were issued but the override flag has been added. In the pack code segment, no actual pack codes or override flags were present.


    There were no other changes.